[meteorite-list] To be or not to be.....Taza!

From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Aug 3 09:26:31 2005
Message-ID: <001701c59830$39480300$09529a54_at_9y6y40j>

Taza is certainly a proper name, linguistically, but not an officially
recognized one.
It refers to a geographical place (no matter, whether it was found there or
not) following or imitating the usage to name meteorites after a
geographical name of a place of a find,
thus certainly different, then "Diderot", "Curie", "Rintintin", which refer
to famous personalities, chosen as working names by persons, who were
perhaps involved in the discovery.

As Taza was a larger find and there are only a few desert irons and cause
the pattern of this plessitic iron are so charcteristic, that even the try
of a layman to tell it apart from other desert irons will be successfull
with a high probability,
this name will be in use for the next 30 years, independently from what the
MetSoc-pros will decide,
who btw should - to adhere consequently to their priciples - then feel the
urgent need to exchange the name "Zagora" with an NWA number,
as there the find circumstances are similar mere as with Taza and that it
was found before the NWA-era, can't be a reason to carry on with that name.

Cheers!
Martin


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Grossman" <jgrossman_at_usgs.gov>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] To be or not to be.....Taza!


> The reason NASA ADS doesn't turn up anything is because this is a
virtually
> unstudied meteorite, so there is no scientific literature on it. In fact,
> ADS gives one hit on the proper name, "Northwest Africa 859", and three
> hits on "Taza"; all of these hits are to popular literature. If and when
> this meteorite appears in an abstract or peer-reviewed journal, you will
> find it only listed under the name Northwest Africa (NWA) 859.
>
> "Taza" is not the "proper name" as Martin called it. It is more of a
> nickname given by dealers before the meteorite was characterized. A
> similar case is the martian meteorite which some dealers dubbed "Diderot",
> but which is really named NWA 2737. I might add that we don't know if
this
> iron even came from Taza, Morocco, because the place of find was never
> reported.
>
> So call it whatever you like, but it would be a good idea if a label
> included the formal name, NWA 859.
>
> jeff
> At 07:07 AM 8/3/2005, Martin Altmann wrote:
> >Hi Cj,
> >
> >as desert irons are very rare - commonly they are reffered to with their
> >proper names, rather than with their number.
> >Especially with Taza, everybody says "Taza" and knows immediately, which
> >meteorite is meant. NWA859 takes a cerebral second longer as it sounds
> >similar with the ubiquist NWA869...
> >I label Taza always: Taza (NWA859).
> >
> >If I search here in the titles
> >http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abstract_service.html
> >then I get 2 hits for "Taza", and Zero meteoriterelated for "859"
> >
> >Meow!
> >Martin
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Peanut .." <cj_peanut_at_msn.com>
> >To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:29 AM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] To be or not to be.....Taza!
> >
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > When you guys go through your collection and you get to that little
iron
> > > known as Taza, Do you label it as Taza or NWA 859? Is one preferred
over
> > > another?
> > >
> > >
> > > Cj
> > > IMCA# 3432
> > > cj_peanut_at_msn.com
> > > www.cjsmeteorites.com
> > >
> > >
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