[meteorite-list] Does this rectify negative feedback?

From: Walter Branch <branchw_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Apr 5 01:34:30 2005
Message-ID: <004a01c539a0$694f9160$6101a8c0_at_launchmodem.com>

Mike and List-

I EMPHATICALLY agree 100% with Mike's opinion

Steve, you went way over the line on this one and I for one
am embarrsed for you as a fellow American.

Norbert (and any other non-Americans reading this) I assure
you, Steve's opinion is not held by THIS American and hopefully
the majority of Americans as this was clearly an honest mistake.
I certainly applaud Norbert's decision to not break the laws
of his country.

Steve, you have earned an honored position on my
"send-straight-to-the-delete-basket" list.

You need to remove those negatives and then learn
(1) manners and (2) respect for the law.

-Walter Branch

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
To: "ROCKS ON FIRE" <meteorites_at_optushome.com.au>;
<meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Does this rectify negative feedback?


> After reading that, you wonder why the entire world hates Americans.
> Steve, be a man and remove those feedbacks from him.
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ROCKS ON FIRE" <meteorites_at_optushome.com.au>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:16 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Does this rectify negative feedback?
>
>
> > Hello, Folks,
> >
> > may I ask your opinion:
> >
> > I listed 2 items (Haig irons) on ebay and forgot to take out Posts to
> > Worldwide, leaving only Posts to Australia, but mentioned in the
> > describtion Sorry, Australia only!
> >
> > One wellknown meteorite collector/dealer from Chicago accquired both
with
> > Buy it now option and paid straight way for them via PayPal.
> >
> > Now I realised the mistake, as I do not have an export permit for this
> > meteorite and wrote this gentleman an apologetic letter and refunded the
> > money straight away.
> >
> > It hit me a bit hard when I got his reply (strange wordings, read below,
> > if you want) and saw that he had given me 2 negative feedbacks for that.
> >
> > I always thought we are some sort of a family and would try to sort
things
> > out - I have tried!
> >
> > I would very much appreciate your honest opinion in this matter, as this
> > is the very first negative feedback on our proud 1000+ positive record.
> > ( If you are bored you can go throught the correspondense following.)
> >
> > Thanks for your advise and
> >
> >
> > Best regards from DOWN-UNDER,
> >
> >
> > Norbert & Heike Kammel
> > ROCKS ON FIRE
> > IMCA #3420
> > www.rocksonfire.com <%3Fhttp://www.rocksonfire.com%3F>
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Steve,
> >
> > I am very sorry that you are taking this mishap so hard.
> > I was always under the impression that you are a gentleman and would
> > understand that we all are only human and can make mistakes.
> >
> > This was a honest listing mistake and my describtion also clearly stated
> > "Sorry, Australia only!" I do understand that this is not much comfort
> > for you, and I can only offer you my humble apologies, and I am sorry to
> > loosing you as a good customer. But I am also sorry to having you
> > mistakenly categorised as collector-buddy and friend.
> > If you take a deep breeze and put yourself into my position, Would you
> > take the risk for some $ 30 bucks to having the Fed's snooping through
> > every corner of your property, getting dragged to court and being
punished
> > with a severe penalty? You don't seem to be so stupid, so I assume you
> > will take my point.
> >
> > Yes, Steve, you paid straight away for these pieces via PayPal, which
you
> > always do and what I always appreciated. And I refunded you the money
via
> > PayPal straight away and asked you, if I can do anything for you, as I
> > reckoned I would owe you one. I guess this straighten this out.
> >
> > I still have to obey to the law here in Australia, and if you are
> > suggesting that the meteorite community in America bluntly can ignore
the
> > law over there, I believe you are very much mistaken. I am also sure
that
> > most Americans uphold the law.
> > I still believe that we can solve this little dispute between us. But if
> > you prefer to put it onto the billboard, to the list or where ever, I
> > can't stop you, feel free!
> >
> > At last: I will not take your expression of "your phony selling
> > technikes". For this you will give me an explanation and take it back.
> > If you want to do anything with eBay, that's fine with me, go ahead!
> >
> > I apologised to you for having made a honest mistake and thought you
would
> > take it as a gentleman.
> > But if you reckon that you are the only unfailable man in the world and
> > that the law is only there when it suits you, when you cannot see a
> > genuine mistake, Sorry, Mate, you then certainly lost me!
> >
> >
> > Best regards from DOWN-UNDER,
> >
> > Norbert & Heike Kammel
> > ROCKS ON FIRE
> > IMCA #3420
> > www.rocksonfire.com <%3Fhttp://www.rocksonfire.com%3F>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
> >
> >>I am really pissed off at you for this.I legally paid for those 2
items.It
> >>was on ebay and that is legal purchaing.It does not matter where in this
> >>god forsaken world it is.And I REALLY DO NOT CARE FOR YOUR STUPID EXPORT
> >>LAW.We don't have that over in the greatest country in the world.I paid
> >>for those pieces legally and I should get them.I am going to file a
> >>grievance to ebay on your phony selling techniques.You do not see any
> >>other countrys with this stupid export laws.HOW STUPID CAN A COUNTRY
> >>BE???.Meteorites run thru the usa like water in a siv.I am sorry to do
> >>this norbert.But what you are doing is totally ILLEGAL by any means.You
> >>have lost me as a customer.I have never been treated so shabbaly as what
> >>you have done to me.And I am going to alert the meteorite community as
to
> >>what you have done to me.I THOUGHT WE COULD WHEEL AND DEAL ON EBAY LIKE
> >>GENTLEMAN?Oh well,I guess not.I will get those
piecess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> steve arnold, usa,where meteorites flow
> >>freely!!
> >>--- ROCKS ON FIRE <meteorites_at_optushome.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>---------------------------------
> >> Hi, Steve,
> >>
> >>I am terribly sorry to disappointing you, Mate.
> >>
> >>Unfortunately I did a mistake in not changing on the ebay form Postto:
> >>Worldwide to Australia only. I only stated in the describtion ' Sorry,
> >>Australia only!'
> >>Haig is a meteorite I do not have permission to export it, and Iwould
get
> >>into serious trouble as this would be a documented breach ofthe Movable
> >>Cultural Heritage Act.
> >>
> >>As much as I would like to send you this little pieces- I can't, and Iam
> >>really sorry, Steve! :'(
> >>So I am going to paypal you the money back to you, - and please
forgiveme
> >>my stupidity!
> >>Also please let me know is I can do anything for you,- I owe youone!
> >>
> >>Hope we still stay friends! :-[
> >>
> >
> >
> >>
> >>Best regards from DOWN-UNDER,
> >>
> >>Norbert & Heike Kammel
> >> ROCKS ON FIRE
> >> IMCA #3420
> >>www.rocksonfire.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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