AW: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out

From: Jörn Koblitz <koblitz_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Sep 23 12:16:01 2004
Message-ID: <E5E6112EA31FA24CB448E091C6883C050EBCE0_at_server2000.microfab.de>

Calcalong Creek is a striking example indeed. Also, consider the existent overlapping strewnfields of some Omani lunar meteorites. And if one takes into account, that EVERY single meteorite fragment collected in Antarctica (ANSMET) - even in the case that it physically fits together with others - gets its unique designation, it is just reasonable to follow the NomCom rules here.

J?rn Koblitz


> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: JKG [mailto:h3chondrite_at_cox.net]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. September 2004 17:43
> An: Michael Farmer; Jim Strope; Meteorite List
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out
>
>
> Think about it folks, Calcalong Creek could be sitting in someone's
> collection with a Millbillillie label on it. Fortunately,
> Haag noticed a
> bit of a difference between it and the other meteorites he
> purchased in
> Australia.
>
> During the NWA number debate of last week or so, I agreed
> with Adam. Now I
> agree with Mike. The meteorites of NWA come with several
> problems that are
> unique as Mike has stated. We.....somebody....needs to do
> something to
> standardize the process and procedure that NWA's must go
> through to be
> legitimized. Mike is correct - there appears to be a double standard
> here. Anyone got some ideas on how to solve the problem?
>
> JKG
>
> At 08:10 AM 9/23/2004, Michael Farmer wrote:
> >Yes Jim, it wasn't pretty.
> >The part about falls and finds was discussed. There is no
> need to classify
> >every piece of those meteorites like Gao or Sikhote-Alin as
> they are from a
> >compact area, and are distinctive enough to lack the need for further
> >classification.
> > When it comes to meteorite mass-concentration areas
> like North Africa
> >and Oman, then the need for further classification is
> necessary. Obviously
> >if you are hunting and find them all together, that would be
> one meteorite,
> >but when buying in the markets there, then everything is
> mixed up, some
> >paired meteorites being sold in cities 400 miles apart! That
> makes for some
> >very confusing classification problems.
> >Mike Farmer
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jim Strope" <jim_at_catchafallingstar.com>
> >To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:05 AM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out
> >
> >
> > > You should have been in Denver, Mike. You would have
> been shocked to see
> > > how much uncut "NWA 1929" was being sold at low prices.
> > >
> > > I am glad that I wasn't on the list the last month to
> witness the fighting
> > > over numbers. Perhaps, each newly found Sikhote-alin
> should have it's own
> > > new name assigned???? Or the new Glorietta? Or the
> new Campo? ETC.
> >ETC.
> > > ETC.
> > >
> > > Jim Strope
> > > 421 Fourth Street
> > > Glen Dale, WV 26038
> > >
> > > http://www.catchafallingstar.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> > > To: "Rob Wesel" <nakhladog_at_comcast.net>; "Meteorite List"
> > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:45 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out
> > >
> > >
> > > > This one confuses me.
> > > > We had a large fight and discussion just last week,
> where the Hupes and
> >Dr
> > > > Jeff Grossman said that pairings must be made
> scientifically and when
> >the
> > > > nomenclature committee denote a number for a meteorite,
> it is for that
> > > > meteorite that the number is reserved, no others.
> > > > NWA 1929 was my meteorite, and it was a single individual.
> > > > I had it classified by Dr Bunch.
> > > > It now seems that people are selling other meteorites
> under my number,
> > > > including the Hupes? How is this possible? Complete
> individuals? Then
> >they
> > > > have not been cut.
> > > > Why the double standard? How does anyone know these
> uncut meteorites are
> > > NWA
> > > > 1929? Why were they all suddenly found a year after I
> bought NWA 1929 in
> > > > Morocco?
> > > > I am a little confused about this, if other meteorites
> can not be paired
> > > as
> > > > stated by the Hupes so adamantly, then how is NWA 1929
> immune to the
> >same
> > > > treatment?
> > > > This is not directed at Adam, he is just the one who
> last week had a
> >huge
> > > > fight with Bob Evans over this, and now it seems that
> other people are
> > > going
> > > > to town with my meteorite number.
> > > > Anyone care to tell me how all of these meteorites are
> no NWA 1929?
> > > >
> > > > Michael Farmer
> > > /meteorite-list
> > >
> > >
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