[meteorite-list] BCC "Meteorites" [was Milestones] PLEASE READ

From: S. Ray DeRusse <srd_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Nov 23 07:20:22 2004
Message-ID: <41A47C80.3050102_at_ispwest.com>

Greetings List;

        I would like respond to Mr. Notkin. Mr. Notkin you prove that if you
wnat to get your facts straight you have to go to the source. Yes we did
file a lawsuit sometime back against numerous individuals when we
discovered they interfering with some others we were working with on the
meteorite project. Its a well known fact that certain individuals have
been operating against us.
        You obviously were lied to by your friend we sued. WE filed a motion to
dismiss the lawsuit after two of the defendants agreed to complete their
contracts with us. WE did it, no Judge dismissed anything. We filed a
motion to dismiss without prejudice that means we can go back at
anytime. Do you understand that? We instructed the Assistant Attorney
General to draft it up, we signed it and filed it once two of the
defendants came forward to spill the beans. We that means us Mr. Notkin.
        Now as far the samples, and being told nicely about anything. First of
all if the samples were not authentic why would UT try to steal the ones
that were in left in the lab with them? It was not until we blew the
whistle on them that this controversy began to get out of hand. If you
think that all scientists are honest and do not lie, cheat, and steal,
having same, similar or different motives, Mr. Notkin I have news for
you, you too are in living world that does not exist. I would hope that
you know the difference between a typographical error and an actual
misspelling, but for some people, thinking on their own is a lot of
work. Good luck Mr. Notkin and I really mean that.

Here's an entirely differenct viewpoint from Dirk Ross

Dear Mr. DeRusse,
   I have been doing research since 1980. But, my last
research was last year at Yamaguchi University in
Japan.
   I have read most of your writings on the internet.
You certainly are an educated person. I can
understand your wish for students and scientists to
think "outside" of the box. I agree with you on this
point. I always ask and demand my students to think
independently so that science can advance what is
known.
   I apologize for my initial judgement about you
before knowing more about the whole story. Keep up
your search for fact. About truth, I leave that for
God. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
www.bccmeteorites.com



Notkin wrote:
> <x-rich><fixed>Jonathan posted:
>
>
>> I'm back on the list. What is BCC meteorites about? I have heard a
>> lot about it and read their site but I still don't understand. Odd.
>
>
>
>
> Dear Jonathan and Fellow Listees:
>
>
> Jonathan, yes you are absolutely right. It is very "odd" and nobody else
> understands their site either because their site is nonsense.
>
>
> I would like all my fellow List members to be made aware of something
> important: These BCC "Meteorites" characters filed an actual lawsuit
> against a number of prominent, respected and very well-liked senior
> meteoriticists here in the U.S (one of whom is a personal friend of
> mine). The suit was -- of course -- thrown out by the judge for being
> utterly frivolous. It's just too bad these clowns weren't heavily fined
> for wasting court time.
>
>
> BCC "Meteorites" seems to believe that there's some kind of high-level
> conspiracy/cover-up going on between NASA and major meteoritical
> institutions -- all because BCC "Meteorites" have been told (nicely and
> repeatedly) that the junk items they dig out of their bog, or whatever,
> in Texas are not actually fossilized alien brains, UFO warp core spare
> parts, Lunar meteorites, Dick Tracy wrist watch radios, etc., but just
> plain old dull terrestrial rocks. I think we all enjoy a good eccentric,
> and the whole thing would have been somewhat amusing in a "Benny Hill"
> sort of way if these guys hadn't been really nasty to some really nice
> people during their imaginary scientific journey.
>
>
> We have our squabbles on the List from time to time, but we are all
> united in our interest in the SCIENCE of meteoritics. The
> technobabble/gobbledygook pseudo-science offered up on the BCC
> "Meteorites" website -- and written, I might add, in appalling
> elementary school English so laden with spelling errors and grammatical
> mistakes that you couldn't follow their argument even if it *were* sound
> -- should not be allowed promotion here on the Meteorite List. Novice
> collectors, still learning about meteorites, might be hoodwinked into
> believing some of the fatuous claims that are made on the BCC website.
>
>
> So, I strongly suggest that we -- as a community -- block the email
> addresses of these guys DeRusse and Cutler immediately and permanently.
> They just want attention, and the best way to eradicate this kind of
> fake science rubbish is to ignore the perpetrators entirely. They'll
> likely get bored and wander off to some UFO conspiracy
> theory/Creationist mailing list of which -- unfortunately -- there are
> probably several. A request from a few of you to List Moderator Art
> Jones ( listman_at_meteoritecentral.com ) to have them removed from the
> List wouldn't hurt either.
>
>
> Oh, and BTW, if you look at the first photo on their website, the guy
> with the white gloves looks like "Dr. No." : )
>
>
>
> Not at all respectfully,
>
>
> Geoff Notkin
>
> Science writer interested in actual science and real
> meteorites</fixed></x-rich>
>
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