AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices

From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Nov 5 10:54:56 2004
Message-ID: <01c701c4c34f$c9b101f0$0200a8c0_at_S0031628003>

I never sell for 99 cents, I often put on for 1 cent though.
I like to make my customers happy, it seems you are advocating raping them
with too high prices.
Do you still have people dumb enough to buy from you?
----- Original Message -----
From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" <meteorites_at_hotmail.com>
To: <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>; <rendelius@rpgdot.com>;
<Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
Cc: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices


> Have speack the person in first put a meteorite for $75 one ebay and if no
> go sold put the same for $0.99$ Start bid....nice take in turn for the
> buyers
>
> Matteo
>
>
>>From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>>To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite"
>><meteorites_at_hotmail.com>,<rendelius@rpgdot.com>,<Altmann@Meteorite-Martin.de>
>>CC: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>>Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:14:39 -0700
>>
>>I thought you were the one always whining about high prices?
>>Now you whine that they are too low.
>>Matteo, I suggest medicine and a psychiatrist..
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite"
>><meteorites_at_hotmail.com>
>>To: <rendelius_at_rpgdot.com>; <Altmann@Meteorite-Martin.de>
>>Cc: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:39 PM
>>Subject: RE: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>>
>>
>>>oh yes....It experiences to sell a lunar meteorite for $5000/gr. now.
>>>.... minimum laugh you behind seen that someone quite thought to put them
>>>to $200 - 500/gr. on ebay and now the luanrs are known with that price
>>>now.
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Bernhard Rems" <rendelius_at_rpgdot.com>
>>>>To: "'Martin Altmann'" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
>>>>CC: Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>>>>Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>>>>Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:42:24 +0100
>>>>
>>>>Martin, I will always repeat my point: :-)
>>>>
>>>>Most people DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SELL. To sell something on ebay is an
>>>>art. If someone sells a rumuruti with one sentence, bad layout and an
>>>>ugly photo - well, what would you expect?
>>>>
>>>>This lack of understanding for the basic principles of selling are as
>>>>much responsible for the cheap prices as ebay or the large amount of
>>>>material.
>>>>
>>>>Bernhard
>>>>
>>>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>Von: meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com
>>>>[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
>>>>Martin Altmann
>>>>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 04. November 2004 18:33
>>>>An: J?rn Koblitz; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>>>>Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>>>>
>>>>Objection:
>>>>a) Howardite sold after Denver in US-ebay at 6.5$/g
>>>>b) Lunaite sold in summer on US-ebay in small slices at 200$/g and 500$
>>>>for
>>>>mare basalt.
>>>>c) Cumulate eucrite in US-ebay at 1.5-2$/g
>>>>d) Ureilite frequently offered at 25$/g there
>>>>e) Rumurutis in german ebay (ignorance, hihi) 1.7$/g
>>>>not to mention the prices one may get on the shows from the Moroccain
>>>>dealers.
>>>>
>>>>I've not the impression, that the rare types are still high priced at
>>>>the
>>>>moment.
>>>>
>>>>f) Finally for most Moroccains meteorites are simple goods like minerals
>>>>and
>>>>fossils.
>>>>They want to sell them, they make their livings from their sales.
>>>>Thus why should they keep them in the back rooms?
>>>>Did they kept the trilobites there, when those crashed in price? (two
>>>>fossil
>>>>collectors told me, that the prices for them years ago were much
>>>>higher).
>>>>If they would have planned and calculated as supposed, they never would
>>>>have
>>>>released so large amounts of rare material before.
>>>>
>>>>My impressions.
>>>>Martin
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "J?rn Koblitz" <koblitz_at_microfab.de>
>>>>To: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com>; "Michael Farmer"
>>>><meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>>>>Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:16 PM
>>>>Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Certainly, there are many more ordinary chondrites (OCs) from the hot
>>>>desert
>>>>and rare types like achondrite probably make up just one or two percent
>>>>of
>>>>it...
>>>>
>>>>...but, considering the fairly high prices for the rare types and the
>>>>limited spending capacity of this market segment (collectors as well as
>>>>museums/research institutes), my impression is, that OCs are easily sold
>>>>in
>>>>"tons" at price levels of 50 to 100$/kg, wereas the rare stuff is being
>>>>sold
>>>>on a gram or even milligram scale.
>>>>
>>>>Wouldn't it take a very long time, to get all the howardites, polymict
>>>>eucrites, rumurutiites, martian meteorites (considering alone the TKWs
>>>>of
>>>>DaG 476 or SaU 005 and pairings) hiding in the back rooms of Moroccan
>>>>and
>>>>non-Moroccan dealers?
>>>>
>>>>I assume, that the prices for OCs - especially those with nice shapes or
>>>>fairly unweathered interior - will rise soon, whereas most of the rare
>>>>types
>>>>will stay at high level or will even decline.
>>>>
>>>>Any objections?
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>J?rn
>>>>
>>>> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> > Von: Greg Hupe [mailto:gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com]
>>>> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. November 2004 18:44
>>>> > An: Michael Farmer
>>>> > Cc: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>>>> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Mike,
>>>> >
>>>> > I concur! The gold rush is already showing signs of ending.
>>>> > The Moroccans
>>>> > are pulling out their "good" material and acting in a
>>>> > feverish, money lust,
>>>> > frenzy to get the last buck from those who deal there.
>>>> >
>>>> > Greg
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>>>> > To: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>; "MARK BOSTICK"
>>>> > <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:27 AM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > On two expeditions in Oman, we found over 100 meteorites
>>>> > before finding my
>>>> > > first achondrite, a rare type of Ureilite.
>>>> > > Achondrites are rare, the flood from Morocco will soon end.
>>>> > > Mike Farmer
>>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > From: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
>>>> > > To: "MARK BOSTICK" <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>;
>>>> > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:19 AM
>>>> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Hiho Mark,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> the region does not make the difference, the finders do!
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> In Antarctica it's the common process, to number each
>>>> > stone seperately -
>>>> > >> take a look at the Bulletins, there you'll find rare
>>>> > types, found in the
>>>> > >> same place on the same day with different numbers.
>>>> > >> Sahara in general is different, in Oman never were so much
>>>> > hunters around
>>>> > >> as
>>>> > >> in Libya and the Oman stuff does not end up in Morocco.
>>>> > >> And the teams in Oman give always all their finds from one
>>>> > aerea as a
>>>> > >> bunch
>>>> > >> in classification, most in the same place. So different
>>>> > conditions as
>>>> > >> with
>>>> > >> the NWA-stuff.
>>>> > >> Meanwhile a beginning collector must have the impression, that a
>>>> > >> howardite,
>>>> > >> a mesosiderite, a CV3 or a olivine diogenite must be
>>>> > something extremely
>>>> > >> common, as always when a new one is coming out, in the
>>>> > months to follow,
>>>> > >> appears a dozen numbers of the same material.
>>>> > >> But ask f.e. Afanasjev or Haberer how many ordinary
>>>> > chondrites you have
>>>> > >> to
>>>> > >> hunt down, until you'll find an achondrite! Make some
>>>> > stats NWA versus
>>>> > >> Dho,
>>>> > >> with the latter I suppose you will get different ratios of
>>>> > rare types to
>>>> > >> common ones, if you count the numbers as own finds.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> And of course many of the OCs from Oman are similar
>>>> > looking as in most
>>>> > >> cases, they ae very weathered, W3-4. But take a look in
>>>> > the lists from
>>>> > >> the
>>>> > >> Bulletins, where you can see from the date of find and the
>>>> > coordinates,
>>>> > >> that
>>>> > >> mostly a large series of subsequent numbers were found on
>>>> > the same trip,
>>>> > >> there you have a wide variety of Ls and Hs with different
>>>> > Fa and Fs
>>>> > >> values
>>>> > >> and weathering degrees.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> So I think, if it costs the same, Stevey is not wrong to
>>>> > prefer Dho
>>>> > >> instead
>>>> > >> of NWA, as in my eyes, they have a higher collector's
>>>> > value (and I'm
>>>> > >> really
>>>> > >> no fan of desert chondrites, I'm sooo conservative and
>>>> > collect names).
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Cheeers!
>>>> > >> Martin
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > >> From: "MARK BOSTICK" <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>
>>>> > >> To: <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>;
>>>> > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:38 PM
>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Hello Martin,
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> I do not keep a list of paired meteorites or possible
>>>> > paired meteorites.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Dhofar is no different then DaG or other like regions. I
>>>> > have traded
>>>> > >>> more
>>>> > >>> in DaG so I could tell you some pairs in it. I have seen
>>>> > a few tables
>>>> > >>> of
>>>> > >>> Dhofar's where you have several H5 or L6's that look a lot alike.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> There have been pairing studies done in DaG, Roosvelt County and
>>>> > >>> Anartica.
>>>> > >>> In all of these high collection places pairings were
>>>> > found to be pretty
>>>> > >>> common. Which I do not see as any problem and that was
>>>> > not a negative
>>>> > >>> Dhofar comment. Anyone thinking it was negative is free
>>>> > to send me all
>>>> > >>> their Roosevelt County meteorites. Should a pairing
>>>> > study be made, I
>>>> > >> think
>>>> > >>> the numbers say you will find Dhofar no different then
>>>> > other areas of
>>>> > >>> meteorite concentration.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> The naming rules in all these areas say pretty much,
>>>> > unless it fits
>>>> > >>> together, it gets a different name...or number as it is.
>>>> > We seem to
>>>> > >>> have
>>>> > >>> changed this a little to, found within a few feet, as
>>>> > many of the DaG's
>>>> > >> with
>>>> > >>> the same number do not fit together.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> On my website you will find I have many Dhofar, DaG and other
>>>> > >>> like
>>>> > >> numbered
>>>> > >>> meteorites. However, if you check the gallery, you will see in
>>>> > >>> my
>>>> > >> personal
>>>> > >>> collection, I avoid like classification meteorites from
>>>> > regions of high
>>>> > >>> meteorite concentration.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> http://www.meteoritearticles.com/photogallerymeteorites.html
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Mark Bostick
>>>> > >>> www.meteoritearticles.com
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
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