AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices

From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite <meteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Nov 5 01:40:03 2004
Message-ID: <BAY2-F17D1Ty9CMdZpD0000268b_at_hotmail.com>

oh yes....It experiences to sell a lunar meteorite for $5000/gr. now. ....
minimum laugh you behind seen that someone quite thought to put them to $200
- 500/gr. on ebay and now the luanrs are known with that price now.


>From: "Bernhard Rems" <rendelius_at_rpgdot.com>
>To: "'Martin Altmann'" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
>CC: Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:42:24 +0100
>
>Martin, I will always repeat my point: :-)
>
>Most people DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SELL. To sell something on ebay is an
>art. If someone sells a rumuruti with one sentence, bad layout and an
>ugly photo - well, what would you expect?
>
>This lack of understanding for the basic principles of selling are as
>much responsible for the cheap prices as ebay or the large amount of
>material.
>
>Bernhard
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com
>[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
>Martin Altmann
>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 04. November 2004 18:33
>An: J?rn Koblitz; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>
>Objection:
>a) Howardite sold after Denver in US-ebay at 6.5$/g
>b) Lunaite sold in summer on US-ebay in small slices at 200$/g and 500$
>for
>mare basalt.
>c) Cumulate eucrite in US-ebay at 1.5-2$/g
>d) Ureilite frequently offered at 25$/g there
>e) Rumurutis in german ebay (ignorance, hihi) 1.7$/g
>not to mention the prices one may get on the shows from the Moroccain
>dealers.
>
>I've not the impression, that the rare types are still high priced at
>the
>moment.
>
>f) Finally for most Moroccains meteorites are simple goods like minerals
>and
>fossils.
>They want to sell them, they make their livings from their sales.
>Thus why should they keep them in the back rooms?
>Did they kept the trilobites there, when those crashed in price? (two
>fossil
>collectors told me, that the prices for them years ago were much
>higher).
>If they would have planned and calculated as supposed, they never would
>have
>released so large amounts of rare material before.
>
>My impressions.
>Martin
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "J?rn Koblitz" <koblitz_at_microfab.de>
>To: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com>; "Michael Farmer"
><meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:16 PM
>Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>
>
>Certainly, there are many more ordinary chondrites (OCs) from the hot
>desert
>and rare types like achondrite probably make up just one or two percent
>of
>it...
>
>...but, considering the fairly high prices for the rare types and the
>limited spending capacity of this market segment (collectors as well as
>museums/research institutes), my impression is, that OCs are easily sold
>in
>"tons" at price levels of 50 to 100$/kg, wereas the rare stuff is being
>sold
>on a gram or even milligram scale.
>
>Wouldn't it take a very long time, to get all the howardites, polymict
>eucrites, rumurutiites, martian meteorites (considering alone the TKWs
>of
>DaG 476 or SaU 005 and pairings) hiding in the back rooms of Moroccan
>and
>non-Moroccan dealers?
>
>I assume, that the prices for OCs - especially those with nice shapes or
>fairly unweathered interior - will rise soon, whereas most of the rare
>types
>will stay at high level or will even decline.
>
>Any objections?
>
>Cheers,
>J?rn
>
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Greg Hupe [mailto:gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com]
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. November 2004 18:44
> > An: Michael Farmer
> > Cc: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
> >
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I concur! The gold rush is already showing signs of ending.
> > The Moroccans
> > are pulling out their "good" material and acting in a
> > feverish, money lust,
> > frenzy to get the last buck from those who deal there.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> > To: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>; "MARK BOSTICK"
> > <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
> >
> >
> > > On two expeditions in Oman, we found over 100 meteorites
> > before finding my
> > > first achondrite, a rare type of Ureilite.
> > > Achondrites are rare, the flood from Morocco will soon end.
> > > Mike Farmer
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> > > To: "MARK BOSTICK" <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>;
> > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:19 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hiho Mark,
> > >>
> > >> the region does not make the difference, the finders do!
> > >>
> > >> In Antarctica it's the common process, to number each
> > stone seperately -
> > >> take a look at the Bulletins, there you'll find rare
> > types, found in the
> > >> same place on the same day with different numbers.
> > >> Sahara in general is different, in Oman never were so much
> > hunters around
> > >> as
> > >> in Libya and the Oman stuff does not end up in Morocco.
> > >> And the teams in Oman give always all their finds from one
> > aerea as a
> > >> bunch
> > >> in classification, most in the same place. So different
> > conditions as
> > >> with
> > >> the NWA-stuff.
> > >> Meanwhile a beginning collector must have the impression, that a
> > >> howardite,
> > >> a mesosiderite, a CV3 or a olivine diogenite must be
> > something extremely
> > >> common, as always when a new one is coming out, in the
> > months to follow,
> > >> appears a dozen numbers of the same material.
> > >> But ask f.e. Afanasjev or Haberer how many ordinary
> > chondrites you have
> > >> to
> > >> hunt down, until you'll find an achondrite! Make some
> > stats NWA versus
> > >> Dho,
> > >> with the latter I suppose you will get different ratios of
> > rare types to
> > >> common ones, if you count the numbers as own finds.
> > >>
> > >> And of course many of the OCs from Oman are similar
> > looking as in most
> > >> cases, they ae very weathered, W3-4. But take a look in
> > the lists from
> > >> the
> > >> Bulletins, where you can see from the date of find and the
> > coordinates,
> > >> that
> > >> mostly a large series of subsequent numbers were found on
> > the same trip,
> > >> there you have a wide variety of Ls and Hs with different
> > Fa and Fs
> > >> values
> > >> and weathering degrees.
> > >>
> > >> So I think, if it costs the same, Stevey is not wrong to
> > prefer Dho
> > >> instead
> > >> of NWA, as in my eyes, they have a higher collector's
> > value (and I'm
> > >> really
> > >> no fan of desert chondrites, I'm sooo conservative and
> > collect names).
> > >>
> > >> Cheeers!
> > >> Martin
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "MARK BOSTICK" <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>
> > >> To: <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>;
> > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:38 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hello Martin,
> > >>>
> > >>> I do not keep a list of paired meteorites or possible
> > paired meteorites.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dhofar is no different then DaG or other like regions. I
> > have traded
> > >>> more
> > >>> in DaG so I could tell you some pairs in it. I have seen
> > a few tables
> > >>> of
> > >>> Dhofar's where you have several H5 or L6's that look a lot alike.
> > >>>
> > >>> There have been pairing studies done in DaG, Roosvelt County and
> > >>> Anartica.
> > >>> In all of these high collection places pairings were
> > found to be pretty
> > >>> common. Which I do not see as any problem and that was
> > not a negative
> > >>> Dhofar comment. Anyone thinking it was negative is free
> > to send me all
> > >>> their Roosevelt County meteorites. Should a pairing
> > study be made, I
> > >> think
> > >>> the numbers say you will find Dhofar no different then
> > other areas of
> > >>> meteorite concentration.
> > >>>
> > >>> The naming rules in all these areas say pretty much,
> > unless it fits
> > >>> together, it gets a different name...or number as it is.
> > We seem to
> > >>> have
> > >>> changed this a little to, found within a few feet, as
> > many of the DaG's
> > >> with
> > >>> the same number do not fit together.
> > >>>
> > >>> On my website you will find I have many Dhofar, DaG and other like
> > >> numbered
> > >>> meteorites. However, if you check the gallery, you will see in my
> > >> personal
> > >>> collection, I avoid like classification meteorites from
> > regions of high
> > >>> meteorite concentration.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.meteoritearticles.com/photogallerymeteorites.html
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Mark Bostick
> > >>> www.meteoritearticles.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
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