[meteorite-list] John's PF comic comments and mine, 1

From: MARK BOSTICK <thebigcollector_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:55 2004
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV143gwBiovu100024aeb_at_hotmail.com>

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Hello John and list, =20
Thank you for your comments, although I do think you are being quite anal=
ytical, it is a one line satire comic now, at least you had content in yo=
ur commentary. It is hard to debate or communicate with someone if their =
critic consists of three or four words that are insults. Your e-mail is n=
ot such and since I have gotten about private e-mails and the list has be=
en kind of flood with e-mails I will comment a little further on the comi=
c. =20
I would like to start by making two notes. =20
First, I like John and we have communicated privately well many times in =
the past. I do not see his e-mail negative in any way. In fact, John was =
kind enough to send me a couple samples of his Mars like earth gabbros th=
e other week. I am not sure if I should thank him or not for that, as it =
FORCED me to go out and find a few other gabbros slices for further compa=
rison's....see what you started John...another sub-collection. I hope Joh=
n does not see this e-mail negative and more of a debate. In fairness, Bo=
linger has been doing satire comics professionally for over 25 years and =
I have a file of ones I have done privately during my lifetime, but only =
have two published comics to my credit. I do think that me and Bolinger h=
ave experience in this field enough to know and understand what and what =
is not a comic, however, I am willing to debate if it is a comic, a fair =
comic and why it is funny. =20
Second, the artist Bruce Bolinger was performing work for hire and is one=
 of the most talented artists I know, and your opinion on the comic shoul=
d not be reflected on him, everyone needs to eat, and this is his job. Wh=
en I was about 10-12, I use to take my $10.00 a week allowance down to th=
e local store and I would purchase a couple magazines and usually some Wa=
lly Wonka candy. Mad Magazine and/or Cracked Magazine was usually my choi=
ce in magazines and as I am sure some of you know it is a satire comic. T=
he best Mad or Cracked magazine artist of all time is Don Martin. I am su=
re you can look him up quite easy on the net, but to those that might hav=
e bought these magazines as a kid, he haf the artwork with the stretched =
bodies and heads, along with big oval eyes, a master at the silent comic.=
 Bruce Bolinger was kind of Don Martin's understudy and worked with him f=
or several years at Mad. When Don Martin left Mad for Cracked Magazine, B=
ruce left with Don, and I think most of the readers followed. Don Martin =
has been dead for many years and I never had the chance to meet him. I di=
d meet Bruce Bolinger many years ago at a major comic show. I use to go t=
o many around that time but I think it was the San Diego convention. Anyw=
ay I purchased a few original pages that made fun of Rush Limbaugh and wa=
s a complete story published in Cracked Magazine. It was pretty cool as I=
 collect Mad and Cracked Magazine art and this one was complete with all =
the print note sheets and film. Usually these were always lost, and with =
modern technology, comics are produced a different way now. =20
Several years later I ran into a reference to Bruce again and managed to =
make contact with him. He agreed to draw a comic for me and I at first go=
t Bob Haag to agree to be my hunter. However, due to the satire nature of=
 the comic series I chose best not to use Bob. =20
I also do not think the comic was a big political statement and I think t=
his shows most have too much time on their hands. The 'Rites & Wrong seri=
es has always been satire. It satire humor does not interest you, do not =
click on the links, that is simple I think. Here are the first comics.
In the first one I had a hunter looking for meteorites across? the Canada=
 border in front of two Canadian police men. If anyone was thinking I was=
 telling you to go to Canada and hunt meteorites, or the like you are rea=
ding too much into a simple comic. =20
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/comic1.html =20
My second comic showed a hunter close to the rim at Meteor Crater, in the=
 daytime hunting meteorites. If you think I am suggesting you do that, pl=
ease do not call me when they take you to jail. =20
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/comic2.html =20
Lets see, the third showed a dog being killed by a meteorite and the owne=
r's name was Mike. The dogs name on the dog house is Nakhla. If anyone th=
inks this means I want to kill a dog or that I hate meteorite people name=
d Mike, or any other crazy notion. I'm not even sure what to tell you. Ma=
ybe count to 10 and breathe slowly. =20
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/comic3.html =20
My fourth comic shows a hunter using a magnet on a truck to collect a met=
eorite....from the sky. This does not mean I think you can hunt meteorite=
s this way, this does not mean I want a large meteorite to fall on a mete=
orite hunter and his dog....while using a large magnet to collect meteori=
tes. It is a comic. =20
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/comic3.html =20
And the fifth does show "gang activity" in PF. I guess here I will use Jo=
hn's commentary to continue. =20
"I was wondering if and why I/someone might be offended by Mark's cartoon=
 about the Park Forest (PF) meteorite fall." =20
I think ANY satire comic, if you thought hard enough might offend someone=
 =20

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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV> <P>Hello John=
 and list, </P> <P>Thank you for your comments, although I do think you a=
re being quite analytical, it is a one line satire comic now, at least yo=
u had content in your commentary. It is hard to debate or communicate wit=
h someone if their critic consists of three or four words that are insult=
s. Your e-mail is not such and since I have gotten about private e-mails =
and the list has been kind of flood with e-mails I will comment a little =
further on the comic. </P> <P align=3Dleft>I would like to start by makin=
g two notes. </P> <P>First, I like John and we have communicated privatel=
y well many times in the past. I do not see his e-mail negative in any wa=
y. In fact, John was kind enough to send me a couple samples of his Mars =
like earth gabbros the other week. I am not sure if I should thank him or=
 not for that, as it FORCED me to go out and find a few other gabbros sli=
ces for further comparison's....see what you started John...another sub-c=
ollection. I hope John does not see this e-mail negative and more of a de=
bate. In fairness, Bolinger has been doing satire comics professionally f=
or over 25 years and I have a file of ones I have done privately during m=
y lifetime, but only have two published comics to my credit. I do think t=
hat me and Bolinger have experience in this field enough to know and unde=
rstand what and what is not a comic, however, I am willing to debate if i=
t is a comic, a fair comic and why it is funny. </P> <P>Second, the artis=
t Bruce Bolinger was performing work for hire and is one of the most tale=
nted artists I know, and your opinion on the comic should not be reflecte=
d on him, everyone needs to eat, and this is his job. When I was about 10=
-12, I use to take my $10.00 a week allowance down to the local store and=
 I would purchase a couple magazines and usually some Wally Wonka candy. =
Mad Magazine and/or Cracked Magazine was usually my choice in magazines a=
nd as I am sure some of you know it is a satire comic. The best Mad or Cr=
acked magazine artist of all time is Don Martin. I am sure you can look h=
im up quite easy on the net, but to those that might have bought these ma=
gazines as a kid, he haf the artwork with the stretched bodies and heads,=
 along with big oval eyes, a master at the silent comic. Bruce Bolinger w=
as kind of Don Martin's understudy and worked with him for several years =
at Mad. When Don Martin left Mad for Cracked Magazine, Bruce left with Do=
n, and I think most of the readers followed. Don Martin has been dead for=
 many years and I never had the chance to meet him. I did meet Bruce Boli=
nger many years ago at a major comic show. I use to go to many around tha=
t time but I think it was the San Diego convention. Anyway I purchased a =
few original pages that made fun of Rush Limbaugh and was a complete stor=
y published in Cracked Magazine. It was pretty cool as I collect Mad and =
Cracked Magazine art and this one was complete with all the print note sh=
eets and film. Usually these were always lost, and with modern technology=
, comics are produced a different way now. </P> <P>Several years later I =
ran into a reference to Bruce again and managed to make contact with him.=
 He agreed to draw a comic for me and I at first got Bob Haag to agree to=
 be my hunter. However, due to the satire nature of the comic series I ch=
ose best not to use Bob. </P> <P>I also do not think the comic was a big =
political statement and I think this shows most have too much time on the=
ir hands. The 'Rites &amp; Wrong series has always been satire. It satire=
 humor does not interest you, do not click on the links, that is simple I=
 think. Here are the first comics.</P> <P>In the first one I had a hunter=
 looking for meteorites across? the Canada border in front of two Canadia=
n police men. If anyone was thinking I was telling you to go to Canada an=
d hunt meteorites, or the like you are reading too much into a simple com=
ic. </P> <P>http://www.meteoritearticles.com/comic1.html </P> <P>My secon=
d comic showed a hunter close to the rim at Meteor Crater, in the daytime=
 hunting meteorites. If you think I am suggesting you do that, please do =
not call me when they take you to jail. </P> <P>http://www.meteoriteartic=
les.com/comic2.html </P> <P>Lets see, the third showed a dog being killed=
 by a meteorite and the owner's name was Mike. The dogs name on the dog h=
ouse is Nakhla. If anyone thinks this means I want to kill a dog or that =
I hate meteorite people named Mike, or any other crazy notion. I'm not ev=
en sure what to tell you. Maybe count to 10 and breathe slowly. </P> <P>h=
ttp://www.meteoritearticles.com/comic3.html </P> <P>My fourth comic shows=
 a hunter using a magnet on a truck to collect a meteorite....from the sk=
y. This does not mean I think you can hunt meteorites this way, this does=
 not mean I want a large meteorite to fall on a meteorite hunter and his =
dog....while using a large magnet to collect meteorites. It is a comic. <=
/P> <P>http://www.meteoritearticles.com/comic3.html </P> <P>And the fifth=
 does show "gang activity" in PF. I guess here I will use John's commenta=
ry to continue. </P> <P>"I was wondering if and why I/someone might be of=
fended by Mark's cartoon about the Park Forest (PF) meteorite fall." </P>=
 <P>I think ANY satire comic, if you thought hard enough might offend som=
eone. </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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