[meteorite-list] New fall prices and photos
From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:46 2004 Message-ID: <037c01c401a8$ed5bb3c0$0200a8c0_at_S0031628003> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0379_01C4016E.40B09080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adam, Proprietary name? Has anyone ever heard of this kind of garbage = before? That is like saying that you suggested the Park Forest name. If = it fell there, then that is the name and so what if it was you or anyone = else who submitted it. That is getting to the bottom or retardedness = Adam. I never accused you of making this fall up, Since you like to ignore the = facts, show us the email where I said that.=20 I did not say you had no material, I said you should show proof, you now = have, why it took a week I dont really comprehend but no matter.=20 Stop looking for accusations and such where none exists. Adam, I said YOU, I know your brother has been to the field more, 3 or 4 = times, Kenya, Morocco 3 or 4 times. Where else in the world? Washington = state?=20 I have been to Morocco 30 times, I can prove it with showing all of my = passport stamps, undeniable proof. It shows that I know what the hell I = am doing there.=20 You did well with your trips after I took Greg with me, showing him the = people I had cultivated since the first trip, makes it quite easy for = you. Now, please stop fighting, I dont want to, I have proven my points, you = ignored them all after I responded, so I see it worked.=20 I am almost out of material for now, will get some more in a few days. = Sell yours, Ill sell mine, all will be happy I hope.=20 Good bye and good night to all. I am jet lagged to all heck and going to bed for a good nights sleep in = my own bed.=20 Photos of the Spain portion of my expedition will be posted tomorrow. Mike Farmer ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Adam Hupe=20 To: Michael Farmer=20 Cc: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New fall prices and photos Dear Mike and List, I will try not to be too negative in this posting but feel, once = again, compelled to respond. First of all Mike, you told us to produce the goods and accused us of = being like Casper offering specimens we did not have in stock.=20 Response: Basically you said show me the money and we did. We = produced the goods and every stone in the image is part of this new = fall. The color is somewhat off because of the lighting as we have = already stated off-List. In reality most are jet black. The large stone = does have a little bit of oxidation as do a few others but it is = definitely part of this fall. Remember this fall is several months old = and some of the pieces were collected recently. H chondrites sometimes = oxidize quickly, especially if they have halite crystals in them and = have been out in the weather. 90% of what we have are cherry picked = individuals with minimal or no oxidation. For the most part the reddish = and blue hews are from differing temperatures during ablation as can = also be seen on Bensour. Secondly, you accused us of only being in the field one time and = sitting on our butts using DHL for our deliveries in a previous post. = You then went on to say you have been to Morocco 30 times. Response: Who do you think is going to believe this? We have already = published our experiences on numerous expeditions and have several other = articles in the works. I am sure you will look forward to reading the = August issue of Outside Magazine this summer in which you are mentioned. = Saying you have been to Morocco 30 times is like saying you repaired = the same transmission in your car 30 times therefor you must be an = expert. I see you are using DHL for your next shipment, a smart move = considering how much cheaper it is than going there unnecessarily. Third, you said we made up this new fall and do not have any material = from it. Response: You apparently recognize we were working on this fall for = some time as you are using our Proprietary in-house and Provisional name = for this new fall on your website. Mike, slow down and stop abusing every person on the List that does = not agree with what you have to say. A lot of List members are afraid = to disagree with you in public for fear of some obnoxious reprisal. = Several have left because of this according to dozens of emails we have = collected. If you look at each argument, you are in the center of it = 95% of time. We have been guilty of disagreeing with you in public = because you pose no threat to us. We apologize to those who were = offended by them but we never once reduced it the level of name calling. = Truly wishing everybody the best and enjoy Amgala, the new fall. Adam and Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection IMCA 2185 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Farmer=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:15 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New fall prices and photos I saw the photos from the other dealers, and am really not sure what = to make of them. The large stone looks like nwa 869, note the fragmented = edges, look weathered. Perhaps bad lighting? As you can see in my photo, = the stones are black as night on the outside and white as snow on the = inside. No question with my photo.=20 Anyway 75% of mine is already sold, I am offering the meteorite for = $10.00 gram across the board. Fragments, or complete stones, same price = as I have little left anyway.=20 Here is my list 2.41 gram individual 100% crusted.=20 3.01 gram individual 100% crusted. 90.00 gram individual 100% crusted. 45.54 gram individual 97% crusted. 76.5 gram individual 94% crusted. 29.05 gram individual 100% crusted. 23.43 gram individual 100% crusted. 28.66 gram individual 100% crusted. 27.95 gram individual 100% crusted. 15.91 gram individual 100% crusted. 23.45 gram individual 100% crusted. 6.35 gram fragment 40% crusted. 29.40 gram individual 100% crusted. 19.74 gram individual 100% crusted. 1.43 gram individual 100% crusted. 9.55 gram 1/2 individual 80% crusted. 288 gram broken inividual in 3 pieces. Mike Farmer ------=_NextPart_000_0379_01C4016E.40B09080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam, Proprietary name? Has anyone ever = heard of=20 this kind of garbage before? That is like saying that you suggested the = Park=20 Forest name. If it fell there, then that is the name and so what if it = was you=20 or anyone else who submitted it. That is getting to the bottom or = retardedness=20 Adam.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I never accused you of making this fall = up, Since=20 you like to ignore the facts, show us the email where I said that. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did not say you had no material, I = said you=20 should show proof, you now have, why it took a week I dont really = comprehend but=20 no matter. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Stop looking for accusations and such = where none=20 exists.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam, I said YOU, I know your brother = has been to=20 the field more, 3 or 4 times, Kenya, Morocco 3 or 4 times. Where else in = the=20 world? Washington state? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been to Morocco 30 times, I can = prove it=20 with showing all of my passport stamps, undeniable proof. It shows that = I know=20 what the hell I am doing there. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You did well with your trips after I = took Greg with=20 me, showing him the people I had cultivated since the first trip, makes = it quite=20 easy for you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now, please stop fighting, I dont want = to, I have=20 proven my points, you ignored them all after I responded, so I see it = worked.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am almost out of material for now, = will get some=20 more in a few days. Sell yours, Ill sell mine, all will be happy I hope. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good bye and good night to = all.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am jet lagged to all heck and going = to bed for a=20 good nights sleep in my own bed. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Photos of the Spain portion of my = expedition =20 will be posted tomorrow.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dadamhupe_at_comcast.net = href=3D"mailto:adamhupe_at_comcast.net">Adam Hupe</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dmeteoritehunter_at_comcast.net=20 href=3D"mailto:meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net">Michael Farmer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 03, 2004 = 10:13=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = New fall=20 prices and photos</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Mike and List,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will try not to be too negative in = this posting=20 but feel, once again, compelled to respond.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First of all Mike, you told us to = produce the=20 goods and accused us of being like Casper offering specimens we did = not have=20 in stock. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Response: Basically you said = show me the=20 money and we did. We produced the goods and every stone in the = image is=20 part of this new fall. The color is somewhat off because of the = lighting=20 as we have already stated off-List. In reality most are jet = black. The=20 large stone does have a little bit of oxidation as do a few others but = it is=20 definitely part of this fall. Remember this fall is several = months old=20 and some of the pieces were collected recently. H chondrites = sometimes=20 oxidize quickly, especially if they have halite crystals in them and = have been=20 out in the weather. 90% of what we have are cherry picked = individuals=20 with minimal or no oxidation. For the most part the reddish and = blue=20 hews are from differing temperatures during ablation as can also be = seen on=20 Bensour.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Secondly, you accused us of only = being in the=20 field one time and sitting on our butts using DHL for our deliveries = in a=20 previous post. You then went on to say you have been to Morocco = 30=20 times.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Response: Who do you think is = going to=20 believe this? We have already published our experiences on = numerous=20 expeditions and have several other articles in the works. I am = sure you=20 will look forward to reading the August issue of Outside Magazine this = summer=20 in which you are mentioned. Saying you have been to Morocco 30 = times is=20 like saying you repaired the same transmission in your car 30 times = therefor=20 you must be an expert. I see you are using DHL for your = next=20 shipment, a smart move considering how much cheaper it is than going = there=20 unnecessarily.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Third, you said we made up this new = fall and do=20 not have any material from it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Response: You apparently recognize we = were=20 working on this fall for some time as you are using our Proprietary=20 in-house and Provisional name for this new fall on your=20 website.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike, slow down and stop abusing = every person on=20 the List that does not agree with what you have to say. A lot of = List=20 members are afraid to disagree with you in public for fear of some = obnoxious=20 reprisal. Several have left because of this according to dozens = of=20 emails we have collected. If you look at each argument, you are = in the=20 center of it 95% of time. We have been guilty of disagreeing = with you in=20 public because you pose no threat to us. We apologize to those = who were=20 offended by them but we never once reduced it the level of name=20 calling.</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Truly wishing everybody the best and = enjoy=20 Amgala, the new fall.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam and Greg Hupe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Hupe Collection</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>IMCA 2185</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dmeteoritehunter_at_comcast.net=20 href=3D"mailto:meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net">Michael Farmer</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 03, = 2004 8:15=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] New = fall=20 prices and photos</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I saw the photos from the other = dealers, and am=20 really not sure what to make of them. The large stone looks like nwa = 869,=20 note the fragmented edges, look weathered. Perhaps bad lighting? As = you can=20 see in my photo, the stones are black as night on the outside and = white as=20 snow on the inside. No question with my photo. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway 75% of mine is already sold, = I am=20 offering the meteorite for $10.00 gram across the board. Fragments, = or=20 complete stones, same price as I have little left anyway. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is my list</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2.41 gram individual 100% crusted.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3.01 gram individual 100% = crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>90.00 gram individual 100%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>45.54 gram individual 97% = crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>76.5 gram individual 94% = crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>29.05 gram individual 100%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>23.43 gram individual 100%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>28.66 gram individual 100%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>27.95 gram individual 100%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>15.91 gram individual 100%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>23.45 gram individual 100%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6.35 gram fragment 40%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>29.40 gram individual 100%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>19.74 gram individual 100%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1.43 gram individual 100% = crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>9.55 gram 1/2 individual = 80%=20 crusted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>288 gram broken inividual in 3=20 pieces.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike=20 Farmer</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0379_01C4016E.40B09080-- Received on Thu 04 Mar 2004 12:24:11 AM PST |
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