[meteorite-list] New fall prices and photos

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From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:46 2004
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Dear Mike and List,

I will try not to be too negative in this posting but feel, once again, =
compelled to respond.

First of all Mike, you told us to produce the goods and accused us of =
being like Casper offering specimens we did not have in stock.=20
=20
Response: Basically you said show me the money and we did. We produced =
the goods and every stone in the image is part of this new fall. The =
color is somewhat off because of the lighting as we have already stated =
off-List. In reality most are jet black. The large stone does have a =
little bit of oxidation as do a few others but it is definitely part of =
this fall. Remember this fall is several months old and some of the =
pieces were collected recently. H chondrites sometimes oxidize quickly, =
especially if they have halite crystals in them and have been out in the =
weather. 90% of what we have are cherry picked individuals with minimal =
or no oxidation. For the most part the reddish and blue hews are from =
differing temperatures during ablation as can also be seen on Bensour.

Secondly, you accused us of only being in the field one time and sitting =
on our butts using DHL for our deliveries in a previous post. You then =
went on to say you have been to Morocco 30 times.

Response: Who do you think is going to believe this? We have already =
published our experiences on numerous expeditions and have several other =
articles in the works. I am sure you will look forward to reading the =
August issue of Outside Magazine this summer in which you are mentioned. =
Saying you have been to Morocco 30 times is like saying you repaired =
the same transmission in your car 30 times therefor you must be an =
expert. I see you are using DHL for your next shipment, a smart move =
considering how much cheaper it is than going there unnecessarily.

Third, you said we made up this new fall and do not have any material =
from it.

Response: You apparently recognize we were working on this fall for some =
time as you are using our Proprietary in-house and Provisional name for =
this new fall on your website.

Mike, slow down and stop abusing every person on the List that does not =
agree with what you have to say. A lot of List members are afraid to =
disagree with you in public for fear of some obnoxious reprisal. =
Several have left because of this according to dozens of emails we have =
collected. If you look at each argument, you are in the center of it =
95% of time. We have been guilty of disagreeing with you in public =
because you pose no threat to us. We apologize to those who were =
offended by them but we never once reduced it the level of name calling. =

Truly wishing everybody the best and enjoy Amgala, the new fall.

Adam and Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
IMCA 2185

----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael Farmer=20
  To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:15 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] New fall prices and photos

  I saw the photos from the other dealers, and am really not sure what =
to make of them. The large stone looks like nwa 869, note the fragmented =
edges, look weathered. Perhaps bad lighting? As you can see in my photo, =
the stones are black as night on the outside and white as snow on the =
inside. No question with my photo.=20
  Anyway 75% of mine is already sold, I am offering the meteorite for =
$10.00 gram across the board. Fragments, or complete stones, same price =
as I have little left anyway.=20
  Here is my list
  2.41 gram individual 100% crusted.=20
  3.01 gram individual 100% crusted.
  90.00 gram individual 100% crusted.
  45.54 gram individual 97% crusted.
  76.5 gram individual 94% crusted.
  29.05 gram individual 100% crusted.
  23.43 gram individual 100% crusted.
  28.66 gram individual 100% crusted.
  27.95 gram individual 100% crusted.
  15.91 gram individual 100% crusted.
  23.45 gram individual 100% crusted.
  6.35 gram fragment 40% crusted.
  29.40 gram individual 100% crusted.
  19.74 gram individual 100% crusted.
  1.43 gram individual 100% crusted.
  9.55 gram 1/2 individual 80% crusted.
  288 gram broken inividual in 3 pieces.

  Mike Farmer
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Mike and List,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will try not to be too negative in =
this posting=20
but feel, once again, compelled to respond.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First of all Mike, you told us to =
produce the goods=20
and accused us of being like Casper offering specimens we did not have =
in=20
stock. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Response:  Basically you said show =
me the=20
money and we did.  We produced the goods and every stone in the =
image is=20
part of this new fall.  The color is somewhat off because of the =
lighting=20
as we have already stated off-List.  In reality most are jet black. =
The=20
large stone does have a little bit of oxidation as do a few others but =
it is=20
definitely part of this fall.  Remember this fall is several months =
old and=20
some of the pieces were collected recently.  H chondrites sometimes =
oxidize=20
quickly, especially if they have halite crystals in them and have been =
out in=20
the weather.  90% of what we have are cherry picked individuals =
with=20
minimal or no oxidation.  For the most part the reddish and blue =
hews are=20
from differing temperatures during ablation as can also be seen on=20
Bensour.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Secondly, you accused us of only being =
in the field=20
one time and sitting on our butts using DHL for our deliveries in a =
previous=20
post.  You then went on to say you have been to Morocco 30=20
times.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Response: Who do you think is =
going to believe=20
this?  We have already published our experiences on numerous =
expeditions=20
and have several other articles in the works.  I am sure you will =
look=20
forward to reading the August issue of Outside Magazine this summer in =
which you=20
are mentioned.  Saying you have been to Morocco 30 times is like =
saying you=20
repaired the same transmission in your car 30 times therefor you must be =
an=20
expert.  I see you are using DHL for your next shipment, a =
smart move=20
considering how much cheaper it is than going there =
unnecessarily.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Third, you said we made up this new =
fall and do not=20
have any material from it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Response: You apparently recognize we =
were working=20
on this fall for some time as you are using our Proprietary =
in-house and=20
Provisional name for this new fall on your website.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike, slow down and stop abusing every =
person on=20
the List that does not agree with what you have to say.  A lot of =
List=20
members are afraid to disagree with you in public for fear of some =
obnoxious=20
reprisal.  Several have left because of this according to dozens of =
emails=20
we have collected.  If you look at each argument, you are in the =
center of=20
it 95% of time.  We have been guilty of disagreeing with you in =
public=20
because you pose no threat to us.  We apologize to those who were =
offended=20
by them but we never once reduced it the level of name=20
calling.</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Truly wishing everybody the best and =
enjoy Amgala,=20
the new fall.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam and Greg Hupe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Hupe Collection</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>IMCA 2185</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <A title=3Dmeteoritehunter_at_comcast.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net">Michael Farmer</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 03, 2004 =
8:15=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] New =
fall prices=20
  and photos</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I saw the photos from the other =
dealers, and am=20
  really not sure what to make of them. The large stone looks like nwa =
869, note=20
  the fragmented edges, look weathered. Perhaps bad lighting? As you can =
see in=20
  my photo, the stones are black as night on the outside and white as =
snow on=20
  the inside. No question with my photo. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway 75% of mine is already sold, I =
am offering=20
  the meteorite for $10.00 gram across the board. Fragments, or complete =
stones,=20
  same price as I have little left anyway. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is my list</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2.41 gram individual 100% crusted. =
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3.01 gram individual 100% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>90.00 gram individual 100% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>45.54 gram individual 97% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>76.5 gram individual 94% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>29.05 gram individual 100% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>23.43 gram individual 100% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>28.66 gram individual 100% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>27.95 gram individual 100%=20
  crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>15.91 gram individual 100% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>23.45 gram individual 100% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6.35 gram fragment 40% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>29.40 gram individual 100% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>19.74 gram individual 100% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1.43 gram individual 100% =
crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>9.55 gram 1/2 individual =
80%=20
  crusted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>288 gram broken inividual in 3=20
  pieces.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike =
Farmer</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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