[meteorite-list] Legality of Libyan Desert Glass Artifacts Discussion Continued

From: Nicholas Gessler <gessler_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Jun 11 16:33:49 2004
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040611132412.03e71540_at_mail.ucla.edu>

Keith,

You seem to like to shift attention by misquoting.
I made no claims about what is "legal" and what "is not legal."
I did make a claim that there is a "higher authority" than some legislation.
That "higher authority" comes from people who make workable laws for "the
greater good, the conservation of cultural and scientific information,"
etc. It comes from seeing the world as it is and also common sense.

You seem to refuse to address the question of "the greater good, the
conservation of cultural and scientific information." Why is that?

And don't misquote me again by saying that I find the other archaeologists'
claims "bankrupt."
I have not discussed the matter with them, and they have not discussed the
matter with me.
It is you who are cross-mis-interpreting their posts and mine and that of
argument is as "bankrupt" as the analyses I've read in your posts.

Cheers,
Nick

Quit quoting and misquoting from other people.
At 12:22 PM 6/11/2004, kaolinite_at_ctc.net wrote:
>Nick wrote"
>
>.text deleted...
>
> >As for your argument, and your "condensation"
> >of what I and others have said, it is your logic
> >that is bankrupt not their postings. Picking an
> >LDG flake up off the shifting sandy desert floor,
> >where it might not otherwise be seen again is
> >not like stealing a stereo from a car. If you want
> >to make a valid analogy to finding an LDG
> >flake in the desert, then it should be "picking
> >up a stereo from the side of a road where it had
> >been discarded." If you want to make a valid
> >analogy to stealing a car stereo, then it should
> >be "stealing a piece of LDG from a museum
> >or private showcase."
>
>First, the condensation "...it may be illegal,
>but so what?..." is not mine. Instead came from
>a post made by a professional archaeologist to
>the "Archaeology List". The full post can
>found at:
>
>http://listserv.tamu.edu/cgi/wa?A2=ind0406&L=arch-l&F=&S=&P=4205
>
>The logic that you claim is bankrupt came from a
>fully credentialed and practicing archaeologist,
>who is a professor at a major university as evident
>from the header identity on the post at the above
>URL.
>
>Although you claim to have been a practicing
>archaeologist, museum curator, and repatriator, the
>professional archaeologists, whom I have discussed
>this with, all disagree with your assessment of the
>legality of collecting and or Libyan Desert Glass.
>Quite Clearly, the professional, who replied to my
>inquiry to the "Archaeology List" disputed your analysis,
>as have other archaeologists, with whom I and
>friends have contacted. I suspect that they would
>find your logic in the last post to quite bankrupt.
>If anyone is engaging in false morality, it is certainly
>not me.
>
>Despite what you have stated, he and other
>professional archaeologists have made it very clear,
>contrary to you have claimed, me that even picking
>an LDG flake up off the shifting sandy desert floor
>and transporting it / exporting it without permission
>from either Egypt or Libya is unethical and illegal
>behavior. It doesn't matter if this Egyptian or Libyan
>artifact is in a museum of not. It is still looting and
>it is still unethical and immoral according to the
>archaeologists, whom I have talked to.
>
>Yours,
>
>Keith Littleton.
>St. Tammany Parish
>
>
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