[meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day

From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Jul 6 20:54:22 2004
Message-ID: <5734115.1089161658528.JavaMail.root_at_dewey.psp.pas.earthlink.net>

To set things straight once and for all......


1. Bob, I first called you at 5:53pm CST to inquire about the refund, yet you claimed that you would have to wait a few hours to send the refund via Paypal since you did not have internet access at the time, thus proving yet another blatant lie from you; your defensive and unprofessional response to my email (to the list) came through at 6:08pm CST, a time-lapse of only 15 minutes. No internet access for a few hours???

2. Also, regarding the original transaction; as I had told you over the phone, I was unable to make the payment (in excess of $1000) due to the fact that I had not received a large payment that I had been expecting to receive from a sale that I had made. The buyer that I had made the deal with finally backed out after two nearly two months of negotiations, so please don't act like it hasn't happened to anyone other that you before, because If it didn't we wouldn't be in the situation and both of us would be happy. I told you that I was sorry for not being able to come through on the deal, but unlike others, I have more important financial priorities over collecting meteorites.

3. I understand that you had to take the extra time to relist your auctions. However, per Ebay policy, odds are you didn't loose any money as a result of this since no additional fees are charged to one's account if the unsold items sell the second time around.

4. "Shame on you little boy" Wow, very mature of you, Bob. At least I don't act like one.


I am sorry that I had to go public with this, but I believe that it has importance so that others can avoid any similar experiences in the future. Thank you for your time.

Ryan



 

-----Original Message-----
From: Comcast Mail <bobe5531_at_comcast.net>
Sent: Jul 6, 2004 6:55 PM
To: Meteorite list <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>,
        RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Bash Bob Evans Day

Ok,

Here goes........... The money order to Stefan was mailed out sometime in
October last year. Why wait 9 months to bring it up here on the list?
There were some inquiries that I responded to approx. 4 months after the
payment was sent. Unfortunately Martin and Stefan dont want to forward my
email responses.
I should add that Stefan is a complete gentleman, and I never accused him of
being fraudulent.
Martin, If you have any proof of me accusing him of being fraudulent .....
please share it with the list !
Of course you cant , BECAUSE I NEVER DID !

By the way Martin......... If I never responded to your inquiries , how did
you know I accused him of being fraudulent? Can you read my mind ?????

As for Ryan........ He requested that I cancel approx. 8 to 10 meteorite
ebay auctions ( which I did ) so that he may buy the whole lot. Then he
waits one week and tells me that he wants his $125.00 deposit back. This
obviously put me in a jam, anyone knows that I sell material to acquire new
meteorites.
So , I get pissed off and take my time refunding the money. Go ahead and
shoot me!! Some Dealers would have told him to go to hell for wasting their
time and would never have dealt with him again.

So beware of Ryan he likes to have you cancel auctions, pay a deposit and
then later back out and ask for a refund. Shame on you little boy

As for the other people Ive dealt with in my short time collecting, I want
to say I appreciate all of the sales, trades, discussions etc.
To name a few Mike Farmer, Dave Shultz, Steve Arnold Chgo., Michael Blood,
Eric Olsen, Rob Wesel, Jim Schwade, Bob Cucciara, Bob Haag

Ask them If I ever stiffed them on money.

And please have a look at my ebay feedback user ID : maccers531
Sorry, no evidence of fraud there either.

Thanks
Bob Evans


----- Original Message -----
From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
To: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>;
<meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:46 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans


> I must warn the list of Bob Evans as well. I was supposed to receive a
$125 refund from Bob over a month ago and I still have not received my money
back, nor have I recieved a response from him after several email and phone
call attempts. Well, I checked his Ebay history a few days ago and noticed
that he had placed a $1500 bid on a meteorite not too long ago, yet he
cannot afford to return my hard-earned money back to me? Never again! I warn
everyone else not to do any business with Bob Evans. His unprofessionalism
is a joke.
>
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM
> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
>
> Hello list!
>
> Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at
> Spacerocksinc!
>
> As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't.
>
> I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future,
> but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob Evans.
>
> Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn
> meteorites for 1000$.
> Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today.
> Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived.
> Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money orders
> it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one.
> Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he
> didn't).
> Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question of
a
> few minutes.
> Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to
claim
> Stefan to be fraudulent.
>
> This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite
> community just has no need for such persons.
>
> You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be of
> modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that case.
I
> wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions.
> 1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer
> meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices.
> With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from similar
> experiences with Mr.Bob Evans.
>
> So:
> Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions (ID:
> maccers531)
> until he will have solved that situation.
>
> To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that
thing.
>
> Thanks a lot!
> Martin Altmann
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: SPACEROCKSINC_at_aol.com
> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July 6,
2004
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html
>
> IMCA#5184
>
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM
> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
>
> Hello list!
>
> Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at
> Spacerocksinc!
>
> As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't.
>
> I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future,
> but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob Evans.
>
> Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn
> meteorites for 1000$.
> Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today.
> Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived.
> Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money orders
> it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one.
> Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he
> didn't).
> Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question of
a
> few minutes.
> Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to
claim
> Stefan to be fraudulent.
>
> This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite
> community just has no need for such persons.
>
> You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be of
> modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that case.
I
> wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions.
> 1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer
> meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices.
> With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from similar
> experiences with Mr.Bob Evans.
>
> So:
> Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions (ID:
> maccers531)
> until he will have solved that situation.
>
> To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that
thing.
>
> Thanks a lot!
> Martin Altmann
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: SPACEROCKSINC_at_aol.com
> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July 6,
2004
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html
>
> IMCA#5184
>
>
>
>
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