[meteorite-list] Re: Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans

From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Jul 6 19:32:09 2004
Message-ID: <31264650.1089156726982.JavaMail.root_at_bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net>

Well, Bob Evans just called me after reading my email to the list and he was pissed-off as I had expected he would be.. nearly shouting at me through the phone line. It doesn't look like I wil be getting "a penny back" from him, so it looks like I'll have to use alternate routes to get my money back. Sorry to everyone else who has to read this, but his reaction to the situation is unacceptable. By the way Bob....I'm 22 years old, not 15 as you had asked me during our brief phone altercation this evening. See you in Tucson next year... I'm sure everyone will be giving you a warm welcome.

Ryan


-----Original Message-----
From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
Sent: Jul 6, 2004 5:46 PM
To: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>,
        meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans

I must warn the list of Bob Evans as well. I was supposed to receive a $125 refund from Bob over a month ago and I still have not received my money back, nor have I recieved a response from him after several email and phone call attempts. Well, I checked his Ebay history a few days ago and noticed that he had placed a $1500 bid on a meteorite not too long ago, yet he cannot afford to return my hard-earned money back to me? Never again! I warn everyone else not to do any business with Bob Evans. His unprofessionalism is a joke.

Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM
To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans

Hello list!

Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at
Spacerocksinc!

As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't.

I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future,
but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob Evans.

Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn
meteorites for 1000$.
Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today.
Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived.
Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money orders
it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one.
Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he
didn't).
Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question of a
few minutes.
Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to claim
Stefan to be fraudulent.

This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite
community just has no need for such persons.

You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be of
modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that case. I
wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions.
1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer
meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices.
With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from similar
experiences with Mr.Bob Evans.

So:
Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions (ID:
maccers531)
until he will have solved that situation.

To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that thing.

Thanks a lot!
Martin Altmann


----- Original Message -----
From: SPACEROCKSINC_at_aol.com
To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July 6, 2004


http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM
To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans

Hello list!

Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at
Spacerocksinc!

As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't.

I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future,
but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob Evans.

Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn
meteorites for 1000$.
Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today.
Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived.
Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money orders
it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one.
Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he
didn't).
Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question of a
few minutes.
Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to claim
Stefan to be fraudulent.

This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite
community just has no need for such persons.

You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be of
modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that case. I
wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions.
1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer
meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices.
With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from similar
experiences with Mr.Bob Evans.

So:
Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions (ID:
maccers531)
until he will have solved that situation.

To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that thing.

Thanks a lot!
Martin Altmann


----- Original Message -----
From: SPACEROCKSINC_at_aol.com
To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July 6, 2004


http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html

IMCA#5184




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