[meteorite-list] What do you think of that?

From: Bernhard <rendelius_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:04 2004
Message-ID: <000401c3df92$2bb6b7c0$0100a8c0_at_rpgdothome>

What is he trying to tell us? All I can read in his last two posts is
some unprovoked bashing of americans, calling them cheaters and liars?

Matteo, just for the records: I asked this question about the spanish
meteorite-"find" just because I wanted some opinions. Excuse me, but
your reactions are sick and sicken me.

BTW - I asked the seller for the promised picture of the certificate. No
reaction so far after 12 hours.

Bernhard

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The same I task of meteorites found in America, for me
is all imported from the desert and strangely found in
USA deserts, and strangely I am not the only one to
think them but also persons of some laboratories....
that strange eh? However I will report several to the
European dealers - all serious ones to 100% at the
moment, while for the moment the only problems that I
have had have been alone with
Americans - about what some personages think about
they.


Matteo


--- David Freeman <dfreeman_at_fascination.com> wrote:
> Half the meteorites I see posted from European
> amatures are fraudulent.
> I SUSPECT ALL with low credentials. Even here in the
> United States.=20
> Unless they are found by Marines... ;-)
> Dave Freeman
>=20
> M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
>=20
> >why....is not possible find a iron meteorite in
> Spain?
> >Or is type the question italian meteorites,
> impossible
> >to find? If this is a Sikhote alin well, for me the
> >Taza is all sikhote's find in desert see is many
> many
> >similar, or Etter for me is a NWA put in
> USA....hard
> >give a confirm....
> >
> >Matteo
> >
> >--- "Jerry A. Wallace" <jwal2000_at_swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems wrote:
> >>
>
>http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2219315732&category=3D=
3
>239
> >
>
><http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2219315732&category=
=3D
>3239>
> >
> >>>Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>>*Bernhard "/Rendelius"/ Rems*
> >>>
> >>Well, Bernhard, I had the same initial reaction to
> >>the pictures that
> >>Dave F. did; it sure
> >>looked like some Sikhote Alin schrapnel.
> >>
> >>But aside from that, judging from their eBay ad
> text
> >>description, it
> >>appears that there
> >>are none of the standard descriptors nor expected
> >>phrases present in the=20
> >>ad that would
> >>lend credibility to their claim of having found a
> >>meteorite, with one=20
> >>exception which I
> >>will expand on below.
> >>
> >>Some descriptors and/or phrases that should be
> >>present in an ad that
> >>would help ensure
> >>authenticity are:
> >>
> >>* ... burned down the barn, the store, the
> outhouse,
> >>etc.
> >>
> >>* ... frightened- Mama, the horse, the goat, the
> >>pig, etc.
> >>
> >>* ... killed the cow, the dog, the mailman, etc.
> >>
> >>* ... too hot to touch for three days.
> >>
> >>* ... set the field, the woods, Charlie, etc., on
> >>fire.
> >>
> >>* ... glowed real bright green, red, blue, etc.,
> all
> >>night.
> >>
> >>* ... melted the shovel, pick, car, cat, etc.
> >>
> >>* ... picked that little sucker up out of the
> bottom
> >>of the ten foot
> >>deep crater that it made.
> >>
> >>There are, of course, any number of other descriptor/phrases that=20
> >>lend virtually
> >>infallible authenticity to what would otherwise be
> >>'questionable=20
> >>meteorites'. But
> >>the ones above will give a good start to novices
> >>unfamiliar with what to=20
> >>look for
> >>in the eBay ads.
> >>
> >>The one item in the eBay ad description that had a
> >>ring of truth to it
> >>was the
> >>mention that it was found only twenty minutes
> after
> >>falling.
> >>
> >>I can easily imagine the following scenario
> (you'll
> >>have to excuse me
> >>for not
> >>illustrating this with people from the towns of
> >>Palencia and Le=F3n in=20
> >>Spain; I
> >>have to go with what I'm familiar with):
> >>
> >><Zeb and Luke are rocking on the front porch of
> >>their shack high in the
> >>Ozark
> >>mountains, in the cool of the evening, imbibing
> >>their nightly refreshment.
> >>NOTE: Setting not important- same thing can and
> does
> >>happen anywhere in
> >>the world.>
> >>
> >>ZEB: "Looky thar, Luke, a shootin' star!"
> >>
> >>LUKE: "Yep. Shore nuff, Zeb, 'nother one o' them
> >>rascals."
> >>
> >>ZEB: "Looks like it landed jes' over that hill
> >>yonder. Let's go git that
> >>sucker."
> >>
> >>LUKE: "Alrighty. I'll jes' grab the jug to take
> >>along. Nice night fer a
> >>stroll ennyhow"
> >>
> >><Down the road and behind the hill twenty minutes
> >>later.>
> >>
> >>ZEB: "Yep. Thar she lies, Luke. Rat thar in the
> >>smack dab middle o' the
> >>trail."
> >>
> >>LUKE: "Wal, whatcha wanna do with this one, Zeb?"
> >>
> >>ZEB: "Wal, I reckin we can do what we done with
> all
> >>them others, Luke.
> >>Let's
> >>take 'er back to the shack, take some o' them
> >>deegital pichers of it and
> >>git the little sucker listed on eBay as quick as
> we
> >>can."
> >>
> >>LUKE: "Sounds like a plan to me, Zeb. Can always
> use
> >>that extree money these
> >>thangs bring in. Need 'nother snort?"
> >>
> >>ZEB: "Yup."
> >>
> >>[With apologies to Arkansas Steve Arnold and other Southerners=20
> >>likely to take offense.]
> >>
> >>West Texas Jerry
> >>
> >>>**
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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