[meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative
From: Mark Miconi <mam602_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:02 2004 Message-ID: <009c01c3db9f$7bee3e80$d7e16a44_at_ph.cox.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C3DB64.CF4C4300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bush is looking at one contigency only....and that is if China beats us = back to the moon we will have the largest COMMUNIST NUKE owning country = in command of the moon. Our strategic command of the skies will be gone, = as will the safety of our satellites, both commercial and military. Possesion is 99% of the rule. Once any country sets up a permanent base = on the moon they will have command of the high ground.=20 I for one will feel much better if it is the good ole USA in control of = the moon. Just my paranonia showing through. Mark M. Phoenix AZ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Howard Wu=20 To: Martin Altmann ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative In a strange way yes. The apollo astronaut discovered helium 3 which = at a billion dollars a ton is energy equivalent to oil at seven dollars = a barrel if we can figure out how to use it. The Chinese think this can = be done by the time they set up there moon base and we don't want to be = left behind, so says Bush's science advisors.=20 Perhaps we can get him to volunteer for the first mars mission, one = way. Howard Wu Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de> wrote: They found oil there? Or do they have to place the Moon car there, before the VLT in Chile = is ready? Martin A. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Christopher Scott=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative This is still NOT proven and in fact, there is evidence there is = little or not water on the Moon. When they crashed Clementine into a = shadowed crater thought to have water ice, none was seen in the debris. The ISS is fragile and not really a great place to work. = Microgravity is very difficult to work in. The Moon would be a much = better place and much easier to work in and leave out from. Besides, we = need to learn to work on the surface of another planet and the Moon = would be a great place to do just that. Christopher ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom aka James Knudson=20 To: CalSouth1_at_aol.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative Hi John, From what I understood from awhile back, the ice that = is on the moons poles(?) would save them a lot of water hauling from = earth. With the escape velocity so much less on the Moon, they would = have an easier time launching a rocket full of water (for drinking and = such) on the way to mars from there as opposed to the Earth. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier <>< IMCA 6168 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: CalSouth1_at_aol.com=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative As there are quite a few space savvy folks on this = list....just asking a question pertaining to Bush's speech. He said the moon was the logical place to initiate space = exploration missions. Yet the moon has harsh environmental = challenges.....and it seems those challenges are less on Mars. Only the = distance is a problem. =20 It would seem to me that a space station orbiting Earth would = be the better place to initiate trips to Mars and beyond? John -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! = Download Messenger Now ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C3DB64.CF4C4300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bush is looking at one contigency = only....and that=20 is if China beats us back to the moon we will have the largest COMMUNIST = NUKE=20 owning country in command of the moon. Our strategic command of the = skies will=20 be gone, as will the safety of our satellites, both commercial and=20 military.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Possesion is 99% of the rule. Once any = country sets=20 up a permanent base on the moon they will have command of the high = ground.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I for one will feel much better if it = is the good=20 ole USA in control of the moon.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just my paranonia showing = through.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark M.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Phoenix AZ</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dfreewu2000_at_yahoo.com = href=3D"mailto:freewu2000_at_yahoo.com">Howard Wu</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3DAltmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de=20 href=3D"mailto:Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de">Martin Altmann</A> ; <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 15, = 2004 12:26=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Bush's=20 Space Initiative</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>In a strange way yes. The apollo astronaut discovered helium 3 = which at a=20 billion dollars a ton is energy equivalent to oil at seven dollars a = barrel if=20 we can figure out how to use it. The Chinese think this can be done by = the=20 time they set up there moon base and we don't want to be left behind, = so says=20 Bush's science advisors. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Perhaps we can get him to volunteer for the first mars mission, = one=20 way.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Howard Wu<BR><BR><B><I>Martin Altmann <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de">Altmann@Meteorite-Martin.de</= A>></I></B>=20 wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dreplbq=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px = solid"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV>They found oil there?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or do they have to place the Moon car there, before the VLT in = Chile is=20 ready?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Martin A.</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3DChristopherJ_at_centurytel.net=20 href=3D"mailto:ChristopherJ_at_centurytel.net">Christopher Scott</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 15, = 2004 7:04=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: = [meteorite-list] Bush's=20 Space Initiative</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>This is still NOT proven and in fact, there is evidence there = is=20 little or not water on the Moon. When they crashed Clementine into = a=20 shadowed crater thought to have water ice, none was seen in the=20 debris.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The ISS is fragile and not really a great place to work. = Microgravity=20 is very difficult to work in. The Moon would be a much better = place and=20 much easier to work in and leave out from. Besides, we need to = learn to=20 work on the surface of another planet and the Moon would be a = great place=20 to do just that.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Christopher</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dknudson911_at_frontiernet.net=20 href=3D"mailto:knudson911_at_frontiernet.net">Tom aka James = Knudson</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3DCalSouth1_at_aol.com=20 href=3D"mailto:CalSouth1_at_aol.com">CalSouth1@aol.com</A> ; <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January = 14, 2004=20 9:45 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: = [meteorite-list]=20 Bush's Space Initiative</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hi John, From what I understood from awhile back, the ice = that is=20 on the moons poles(?) would save them a lot of water hauling = from earth.=20 With the escape velocity so much less on the Moon, they would = have an=20 easier time launching a rocket full of water (for drinking = and=20 such) on the way to mars from there as opposed to the = Earth.</DIV> <DIV>Thanks, Tom<BR>Peregrineflier <><<BR>IMCA = 6168<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: = 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3DCalSouth1_at_aol.com=20 href=3D"mailto:CalSouth1_at_aol.com">CalSouth1@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, = January 14, 2004=20 10:37 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> = [meteorite-list] Bush's=20 Space Initiative</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>As there are quite a few space savvy folks on this = list....just=20 asking a question pertaining to Bush's speech.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>He said the moon was the logical place to initiate space=20 exploration missions. Yet the moon has harsh = environmental=20 challenges.....and it seems those challenges are less on = Mars. =20 Only the distance is a problem. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It would seem to me that a space station orbiting Earth = would be=20 the better place to initiate trips to Mars and beyond?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>John</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> = <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <P> <HR SIZE=3D1> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 = href=3D"http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenge= r.yahoo.com"><B>Yahoo!=20 Messenger</B></A> - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! = <A=20 = href=3D"http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenge= r.yahoo.com/download/index.html"><STRONG>Download=20 Messenger Now</STRONG></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C3DB64.CF4C4300-- Received on Thu 15 Jan 2004 02:40:51 PM PST |
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