[meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative
From: Howard Wu <freewu2000_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:02 2004 Message-ID: <20040115192647.24145.qmail_at_web60006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-484445159-1074194807=:23745 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a strange way yes. The apollo astronaut discovered helium 3 which at a billion dollars a ton is energy equivalent to oil at seven dollars a barrel if we can figure out how to use it. The Chinese think this can be done by the time they set up there moon base and we don't want to be left behind, so says Bush's science advisors. Perhaps we can get him to volunteer for the first mars mission, one way. Howard Wu Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de> wrote: They found oil there? Or do they have to place the Moon car there, before the VLT in Chile is ready? Martin A. ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Scott To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative This is still NOT proven and in fact, there is evidence there is little or not water on the Moon. When they crashed Clementine into a shadowed crater thought to have water ice, none was seen in the debris. The ISS is fragile and not really a great place to work. Microgravity is very difficult to work in. The Moon would be a much better place and much easier to work in and leave out from. Besides, we need to learn to work on the surface of another planet and the Moon would be a great place to do just that. Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom aka James Knudson To: CalSouth1_at_aol.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative Hi John, From what I understood from awhile back, the ice that is on the moons poles(?) would save them a lot of water hauling from earth. With the escape velocity so much less on the Moon, they would have an easier time launching a rocket full of water (for drinking and such) on the way to mars from there as opposed to the Earth. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier <>< IMCA 6168 ----- Original Message ----- From: CalSouth1_at_aol.com To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative As there are quite a few space savvy folks on this list....just asking a question pertaining to Bush's speech. He said the moon was the logical place to initiate space exploration missions. Yet the moon has harsh environmental challenges.....and it seems those challenges are less on Mars. Only the distance is a problem. It would seem to me that a space station orbiting Earth would be the better place to initiate trips to Mars and beyond? John --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now --0-484445159-1074194807=:23745 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <DIV>In a strange way yes. The apollo astronaut discovered helium 3 which at a billion dollars a ton is energy equivalent to oil at seven dollars a barrel if we can figure out how to use it. The Chinese think this can be done by the time they set up there moon base and we don't want to be left behind, so says Bush's science advisors. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Perhaps we can get him to volunteer for the first mars mission, one way.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Howard Wu<BR><BR><B><I>Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV>They found oil there?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or do they have to place the Moon car there, before the VLT in Chile is ready?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Martin A.</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ChristopherJ_at_centurytel.net href="mailto:ChristopherJ@centurytel.net">Christopher Scott</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com href="mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:04 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>This is still NOT proven and in fact, there is evidence there is little or not water on the Moon. When they crashed Clementine into a shadowed crater thought to have water ice, none was seen in the debris.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The ISS is fragile and not really a great place to work. Microgravity is very difficult to work in. The Moon would be a much better place and much easier to work in and leave out from. Besides, we need to learn to work on the surface of another planet and the Moon would be a great place to do just that.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Christopher</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=knudson911_at_frontiernet.net href="mailto:knudson911@frontiernet.net">Tom aka James Knudson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=CalSouth1_at_aol.com href="mailto:CalSouth1@aol.com">CalSouth1@aol.com</A> ; <A title=meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com href="mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:45 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hi John, From what I understood from awhile back, the ice that is on the moons poles(?) would save them a lot of water hauling from earth. With the escape velocity so much less on the Moon, they would have an easier time launching a rocket full of water (for drinking and such) on the way to mars from there as opposed to the Earth.</DIV> <DIV>Thanks, Tom<BR>Peregrineflier <><<BR>IMCA 6168<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=CalSouth1_at_aol.com href="mailto:CalSouth1@aol.com">CalSouth1@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com href="mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:37 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>As there are quite a few space savvy folks on this list....just asking a question pertaining to Bush's speech.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>He said the moon was the logical place to initiate space exploration missions. Yet the moon has harsh environmental challenges.....and it seems those challenges are less on Mars. Only the distance is a problem. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It would seem to me that a space station orbiting Earth would be the better place to initiate trips to Mars and beyond?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>John</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr size=1><font face="Arial" size="2"> <a href="http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com"><b> Yahoo! Messenger</b></a> - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! <a href="http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html"><strong>Download Messenger Now</strong></a></font> --0-484445159-1074194807=:23745-- Received on Thu 15 Jan 2004 02:26:47 PM PST |
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