[meteorite-list] Help me solve a mystery - NWA mystery
From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:31:28 2004 Message-ID: <02cc01c3fcae$dd7ef560$7fc21018_at_attbi.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02C9_01C3FC6B.CEBD0460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NachrichtDear Bernhard and List, I very rarely comment from images alone as it is very difficult to = assess stones from pictures. The shape suggests a water worn pebble = more than an ablative process to me. If the refractive material were = meteorite metal you would get more of pull from a magnet judging from = the amount present. The things I look for are a valid fusion crust, = proper shape, nickel-iron metal, shock indications and how the stone = weathered. I see nothing that indicates a meteorite to me but I have = been surprised a few times in the past. Very interesting stone whatever = it turns out to be. All the best, Adam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Help me solve a mystery - NWA mystery Hi, app. 2 weeks ago, Steve Arnold (Illinois) sold a "mystery NWA" on = ebay. This is the text that came with the auction (as often with Steve, = no pic): "Up here for auction is a mystery.This is a 134.9 gram whole stone = that has been cut by AL LANG.It is a unclassified NWA mystery stone.I = had bob haag,richard norton,al lang,ed thompson,blaine reed, and a few = others give thier opinion on what it might be.No one knows.It has a very = rich dark brown matrix.Very few or none at all with chondrules.High in = metal, but it pulls very weakly even with a strong magnet.You can be the = lucky winner of this mystery stone and you can try and get it = classified.It measures 6.5 cm x 5.2 cm x 3.8 cm.I will start the bidding = at $1.00. Good luck." Well, I bidded and won the item. Today it arrived. I had a closer look = at it, took some photographs and am looking for your expertise now. Let me describe the tactile impressions: The item is feels pretty cold = when you hold it, and it has about the right weight for a meteorite of = this size. However: the outside feels quite "soft", more like an = ordinary stone than a meteorite, like a pebble that has been in the = water. There is indeed a lot of metal visible from the outside, but on the = cut surface, the deeper you go inside, the less metal you find. A close = examination with a 10x magnification showed no chondrules at all, at = least for me.=20 Here are three photos of the object (they are quite large in order to = reveal more details). I have brightened the photos and added some = contrast and some mild sharpening, but I'd say they are true to the = visual appearance of the object: http://metcollector.rendelius.com/mystery1.jpg http://metcollector.rendelius.com/mystery2.jpg http://metcollector.rendelius.com/mystery3.jpg So - what's your impression? Is it a meteorite at all? What is it? Bernhard ------=_NextPart_000_02C9_01C3FC6B.CEBD0460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Nachricht</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Bernhard and List,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I very rarely comment from images alone = as it is=20 very difficult to assess stones from pictures. The shape suggests = a water=20 worn pebble more than an ablative process to me. If the refractive = material=20 were meteorite metal you would get more of pull from a magnet judging = from the=20 amount present. The things I look for are a valid fusion crust, = proper=20 shape, nickel-iron metal, shock indications and how the stone = weathered. I=20 see nothing that indicates a meteorite to me but I have been surprised a = few=20 times in the past. Very interesting stone whatever it turns out to = be.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the best,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Drendelius_at_rpgdot.com = href=3D"mailto:rendelius_at_rpgdot.com">Bernhard=20 "Rendelius" Rems</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 26, = 2004 1:38=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Help = me solve a=20 mystery - NWA mystery</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>app. = 2 weeks ago,=20 Steve Arnold (Illinois) sold a "mystery NWA" on ebay. This is the text = that=20 came with the auction (as often with Steve, no = pic):</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004>"Up here for auction is a = mystery.This is=20 a 134.9 gram whole stone that has been cut by AL LANG.It is a = unclassified NWA=20 mystery stone.I had bob haag,richard norton,al lang,ed thompson,blaine = reed,=20 and a few others give thier opinion on what it might be.No one = knows.It has a=20 very rich dark brown matrix.Very few or none at all with = chondrules.High in=20 metal, but it pulls very weakly even with a strong magnet.You can be = the lucky=20 winner of this mystery stone and you can try and get it classified.It = measures=20 6.5 cm x 5.2 cm x 3.8 cm.I will start the bidding at $1.00. Good=20 luck."</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Well, I bidded and=20 won the item. Today it arrived. I had a closer look at it, took some=20 photographs and am looking for your expertise now.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let = me describe=20 the tactile impressions: The item is feels pretty cold when you hold = it, and=20 it has about the right weight for a meteorite of this size. However: = the=20 outside feels quite "soft", more like an ordinary stone than a = meteorite, like=20 a pebble that has been in the water.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>There is indeed a=20 lot of metal visible from the outside, but on the cut surface, the = deeper you=20 go inside, the less metal you find. A close examination with a 10x=20 magnification showed no chondrules at all, at least for me.=20 </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here = are three=20 photos of the object (they are quite large in order to reveal more = details). I=20 have brightened the photos and added some contrast and some mild = sharpening,=20 but I'd say they are true to the visual appearance of the=20 object:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 = href=3D"http://metcollector.rendelius.com/mystery1.jpg">http://metcollect= or.rendelius.com/mystery1.jpg</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 = href=3D"http://metcollector.rendelius.com/mystery2.jpg">http://metcollect= or.rendelius.com/mystery2.jpg</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 = href=3D"http://metcollector.rendelius.com/mystery3.jpg">http://metcollect= or.rendelius.com/mystery3.jpg</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So - = what's your=20 impression? Is it a meteorite at all? What is it?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D390122321-26022004><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Bernhard</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_02C9_01C3FC6B.CEBD0460-- Received on Thu 26 Feb 2004 04:24:05 PM PST |
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