Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <mattriver_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:31:19 2004
Message-ID: <BAY13-F101S3g8GUXiZ0005902c_at_hotmail.com>

My friend go in DaG desert from many years, sure over how many time you go,
and know very well the persons of the desert, and not go only in DaG zone
but the same in Algery and Morocco. I never go in morocco...and the same in
India....but I have the same the meteorites.....


>From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>To: "Matt River"
><mattriver_at_hotmail.com>,<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: Re: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
>Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 00:19:14 -0700
>
>Matteo, only one thing to say to you. You have NEVER been to Morocco.
>So do us all a favor, and shut your mouth as you have not the slightest
>idea
>what you are talking about.
>Mike Farmer
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt River" <mattriver_at_hotmail.com>
>To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:57 PM
>Subject: Re: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
>
>
> > I do not make no excuse, I say what task and enough. Sincerely I do
> > not understand where goes to end all the money that these nomads take
> > selling meteorites, inasmuch as I do not see no improvement care their
> > life - they have bought a house, have improved their life? - I see
> > always living to them equal, no improvement, therefore, where they
> > go to end all the money earns from this persons? Care the Pelisson I
>doubt
> > very
> > that they must themselves be made publicity, inasmuch as well they are
> > known in all Europe, probably not in the great America......
> > Other issue is the extreme rivalry that the nomads have between of they,
> > time makes Mr.Habibi had said that not sell to me any meteorite why its
> > friend,
> > than then has uncovered who was inasmuch as he was my supplier,
> > had said to it that I never did not pay. Contacted
> > my friend, for having explanations, this it has said to me that they
> > were all used idiocys in order to carry the customers to others.
> > Therefore, seen the situation, I can very well think about all care
> > where he goes to end this money.....
> >
> > Io non faccio nessuna scusa, io dico quello che penso e basta.
>Sinceramente
> > non capisco dove vada a finire tutto il denaro che questi nomadi
>prendono
> > vendendo meteoriti, visto che non vedo nessun miglioramento riguardo la
>loro
> > vita - hanno comprato una casa, hanno migliorato la loro vita? - io li
>vedo
> > sempre vivere uguale, nessun miglioramente, quindi, dove vanno a finire
> > tutti i soldi guadagnati? Riguardo i Pelisson dubito molto che loro si
> > debbano fare pubblicità, visto che sono bene conosciuti in tutta europa,
> > probabilmente non nella grande America......
> > Altra questione è l'estrema rivalità che i nomadi hanno tra di loro,
>tempo
> > fa Mr.Habibi aveva detto che a me non vendeva nessuna meteorite perchè
>un
> > altro suo amico, che poi ho scoperto chi era visto che era il mio
>fornitore,
> > gli aveva detto che io non pagavo mai. Contattato il mio amico, per
>avere
> > spiegazioni, questo mi ha detto che erano tutte idiozie usate per
>portare
> > via clienti ad altri. Quindi, vista la situazione, io posso benissimo
> > pensare di tutto riguardo dove vada a finire questo denaro.....
> >
> >
> > >From: j.divelbiss_at_att.net
> > >To: "aziz habibi " <desertman5_at_caramail.com>
> > >CC:
> >
> ><meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com>,<meteorite-list@meteoritecentra
>l.com>
> > >Subject: Re: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for
>terrorism?
> > >Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 22:19:11 +0000
> > >
> > >Habibi and friends in NWA,
> > >
> > >As a simple collector of meteorites with a lot of NWA material in my
> > >collection, I want to say some things that support your efforts and
> > >livelihood.
> > >
> > >First off, do not let the off-based comments of a few jealous dealers
>upset
> > >the trust and good business practices you enjoy with the dealers you
>are
> > >used
> > >to working with. These comments made by the Pellisons and Matteo
>yesterday
> > >are intended to upset the people in NWA, and to drive away collectors
>like
> > >myself. We are not that easily influenced or ignorant to the fact that
> > >their
> > >actual motives are to slow down your business, and to draw attention to
> > >themselves in the hope of collectors like myself would want to buy from
> > >them
> > >instead. I would say there are very few, if any, that would fall for
>such
> > >tactics, and in fact their comments only reinforce the notion that I do
> > >not,
> > >and will not buy from those who make such comments.
> > >
> > >The Pellisons as Norbert pointed out yesterday have used similar
>propaganda
> > >on their website that pointed to the lack of documentation for NWA's as
>a
> > >reason not to buy them. As if this lack of documentation made these
>finds
> > >lesser meteorites. I have said this before and I'll say it again, it
>does
> > >not
> > >bother me that NWAs are not documented in great detail in all cases. I
>wish
> > >it could be improved, but it certainly does not affect my thinking when
> > >purchasing material. We know some of it is documented and that is good
>for
> > >those who want to look for more of the same material in a known
>location,
> > >and
> > >for those who want to understand the nature of desert finds and
> > >strewnfields.
> > >For me, the quantity and quality of material from NWA is excellent, and
> > >your
> > >folks have made it possible for both scientists and collectors to have
>a
> > >full
> > >assortment of material for their study and enjoyment. We as meteorite
> > >enthusiasts have had our situation improved greatly by these NWA finds.
> > >
> > >Now this latest accusation by the Pellisons and supporting comments by
>one
> > >person, Matteo, while minor in number, are slander and a major
>injustice
>to
> > >the good people in NWA who work hard at finding these stones. Their
>apology
> > >to you and others would be appropriate, but I doubt if they ever would
>do
> > >it.
> > >They are not that kind of people I'm afraid. If you can, forget about
>them
> > >and treat them as minor players in all this, because they are minor
> > >players.
> > >But remember them if and when they come to you and others in NWA
>looking
> > >for
> > >material, and be sure to turn them away empty handed. There are enough
> > >other
> > >dealers who will treat you more properly. You can always come to the
>list
> > >for
> > >support as your can see by the response of most who support the NWA
>cause.
> > >
> > >These lies are not nice, but you can see that we think they have no
>truth
> > >to
> > >them. We will still be supporting the NWA market for years to come.
>Tell
> > >your
> > >friends to keep their chins up and continue their search of more.
> > >
> > >Best Regards to the people of NWA,
> > >
> > >John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > hello list hell all
> > > > all nwa will remember this day, my god what can people do to sell
>stone,
> > > > what happend to this wolrd, im sick of all this lies why all this
>what
> > >do you
> > > > want,
> > > > thanks dean thanks to all who awserd this lies , you think that the
> > >nomade do
> > > > not read what is on the list , they
> > > > go to archives and know everthing,
> > > > my god , why all this lies im so sick that im going to qiet
> > > > i m tired of all the lies that people write on this list.
> > > > im going to print this letter and give to nomade with the names of
>who
> > >write it
> > > > you lies abaout nwa and you lies abaout poor nomade and they are
>only
> > >looking
> > > > for eat,
> > > > why you do not let the nomade in there peace and desert , fight if
>you
> > >want but
> > > > let the poor nomade in peace
> > > > what we cant hear this time
> > > > its a shame,
> > > > no and no its a shame
> > > > who is this new loby againt nwa
> > > > you know who will lost , with lies , no its all of us , this type
>letter
> > >can
> > > > make stoping all the stone geting out from
> > > > nwa , and then nothing
> > > > why all this , why
> > > > why
> > > > why
> > > > its a shame
> > > > damn , cam this people sleep with there consciense
> > > > if they have consciense
> > > > i m so sick that i cam write
> > > > bye
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------- Message d'origine -------
> > > > De: Bernhard \ Rendelius\ Rems <rendelius_at_rpgdot.com>
> > > > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:46:19 +0100
> > > > Sujet: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for
>terrorism?
> > > >
> > > > Ok, now Matteo has admitted that he is Matt River.
> > > >
> > > > Bernhard
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > > [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> > > > River
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:35 PM
> > > > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > > Subject: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for
>terrorism?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Farmer.... what you make the double game? You put the privat emails
>in
> > > > public? But like, to me you said not to make it and hour make it
>also
> > > > you? I wants to say that you go badly if you make therefore.
>However,
>if
> > > > I come banned from this list hour, wants to say that it is not for
>null
> > >
> > > > democratic inasmuch as I have not opened mouth and I not have
> > > > put
> > > > any public email to Farmer. If instead it will be made, I have an
>other
> > > > account,
> > > > and then an other anchor, and an other...
> > > >
> > > > Farmer....cosa fai il doppio gioco? Metti le email private
>pubbliche?
>Ma
> > > >
> > > > come, a me dicevi di non farlo e ora lo fai anche tu? Vuole dire che
>ti
> > > > và
> > > > male se fai così. Comunque, se vengo bannato da questa lista ora
>vuol
> > > > dire
> > > > che non è per nulla democratica visto che non ho aperto bocca
>mettendo
> > > > nessuna email pubblica. Se invece sarà fatto, fatelo pure, tanto ho
>un
> > > > altro
> > > > account, e poi un altro ancora, e un altro...
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Michael Farmer"
> > > > >To:
> > > > >Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
> > > > >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:31:44 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites"
> > > > >To:
> > > > >Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:01 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > We all know it is Matteo, he is so stupid that he
> > > > > > doesn't even know how to
> > > > > > lie well.
> > > > > > Mike Farmer
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > shhhhhh...go go to sale your fake new diogenite and
> > > > > > new martian hahahaha....now I hope the NWA market
> > > > > > close, I want see after what you sold....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > =====
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