Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?

From: j.divelbiss_at_att.net <j.divelbiss_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:31:19 2004
Message-ID: <020120042219.23928.4f12_at_att.net>

Habibi and friends in NWA,

As a simple collector of meteorites with a lot of NWA material in my
collection, I want to say some things that support your efforts and
livelihood.

First off, do not let the off-based comments of a few jealous dealers upset
the trust and good business practices you enjoy with the dealers you are used
to working with. These comments made by the Pellisons and Matteo yesterday
are intended to upset the people in NWA, and to drive away collectors like
myself. We are not that easily influenced or ignorant to the fact that their
actual motives are to slow down your business, and to draw attention to
themselves in the hope of collectors like myself would want to buy from them
instead. I would say there are very few, if any, that would fall for such
tactics, and in fact their comments only reinforce the notion that I do not,
and will not buy from those who make such comments.

The Pellisons as Norbert pointed out yesterday have used similar propaganda
on their website that pointed to the lack of documentation for NWA's as a
reason not to buy them. As if this lack of documentation made these finds
lesser meteorites. I have said this before and I'll say it again, it does not
bother me that NWAs are not documented in great detail in all cases. I wish
it could be improved, but it certainly does not affect my thinking when
purchasing material. We know some of it is documented and that is good for
those who want to look for more of the same material in a known location, and
for those who want to understand the nature of desert finds and strewnfields.
For me, the quantity and quality of material from NWA is excellent, and your
folks have made it possible for both scientists and collectors to have a full
assortment of material for their study and enjoyment. We as meteorite
enthusiasts have had our situation improved greatly by these NWA finds.

Now this latest accusation by the Pellisons and supporting comments by one
person, Matteo, while minor in number, are slander and a major injustice to
the good people in NWA who work hard at finding these stones. Their apology
to you and others would be appropriate, but I doubt if they ever would do it.
They are not that kind of people I'm afraid. If you can, forget about them
and treat them as minor players in all this, because they are minor players.
But remember them if and when they come to you and others in NWA looking for
material, and be sure to turn them away empty handed. There are enough other
dealers who will treat you more properly. You can always come to the list for
support as your can see by the response of most who support the NWA cause.

These lies are not nice, but you can see that we think they have no truth to
them. We will still be supporting the NWA market for years to come. Tell your
friends to keep their chins up and continue their search of more.

Best Regards to the people of NWA,

John



 
>  
> hello list hell all
> all nwa will remember this day, my god what can people do to sell stone,
> what happend to this wolrd, im sick of all this lies why all this what do you
> want,
> thanks dean thanks to all who awserd this lies , you think that the nomade do
> not read what is on the list , they
> go to archives and know everthing,
> my god , why all this lies im so sick that im going to qiet
> i m tired of all the lies that people write on this list.
> im going to print this letter and give to nomade with the names of who write it
> you lies abaout nwa and you lies abaout poor nomade and they are only looking
> for eat,
> why you do not let the nomade in there peace and desert , fight if you want but
> let the poor nomade in peace
> what we cant hear this time
> its a shame,
> no and no its a shame
> who is this new loby againt nwa
> you know who will lost , with lies , no its all of us , this type letter can
> make stoping all the stone geting out from
> nwa , and then nothing
> why all this , why
> why
> why
> its a shame
> damn , cam this people sleep with there consciense
> if they have consciense
> i m so sick that i cam write
> bye
>
>
> ------- Message d'origine ------- 
> De: Bernhard \ Rendelius\ Rems <rendelius_at_rpgdot.com> 
> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:46:19 +0100 
> Sujet: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? 
>
> Ok, now Matteo has admitted that he is Matt River.
>
> Bernhard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> River
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:35 PM
> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
>
>
> Farmer.... what you make the double game? You put the privat emails in
> public? But like, to me you said not to make it and hour make it also
> you? I wants to say that you go badly if you make therefore. However, if
> I come banned from this list hour, wants to say that it is not for null

> democratic inasmuch as I have not opened mouth and I not have
> put
> any public email to Farmer. If instead it will be made, I have an other
> account,
> and then an other anchor, and an other...
>
> Farmer....cosa fai il doppio gioco? Metti le email private pubbliche? Ma
>
> come, a me dicevi di non farlo e ora lo fai anche tu? Vuole dire che ti
> vā
> male se fai cosė. Comunque, se vengo bannato da questa lista ora vuol
> dire
> che non č per nulla democratica visto che non ho aperto bocca mettendo
> nessuna email pubblica. Se invece sarā fatto, fatelo pure, tanto ho un
> altro
> account, e poi un altro ancora, e un altro...
>
> >From: "Michael Farmer"
> >To:
> >Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
> >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:31:44 -0700
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites"
> >To:
> >Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:01 AM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
> >
> >

> > > We all know it is Matteo, he is so stupid that he
> > > doesn't even know how to
> > > lie well.
> > > Mike Farmer
> > >
> > >
> > > shhhhhh...go go to sale your fake new diogenite and
> > > new martian hahahaha....now I hope the NWA market
> > > close, I want see after what you sold....
> > >
> > > =====
> > > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
> > > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
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> > > International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140
> > > MSN Messanger: spacerocks_at_hotmail.com
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> > >
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