Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?

From: Matt River <mattriver_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:31:19 2004
Message-ID: <BAY13-F38SAE3jjlreV0000a9a4_at_hotmail.com>

I do not make no excuse, I say what task and enough. Sincerely I do
not understand where goes to end all the money that these nomads take
selling meteorites, inasmuch as I do not see no improvement care their
life - they have bought a house, have improved their life? - I see
always living to them equal, no improvement, therefore, where they
go to end all the money earns from this persons? Care the Pelisson I doubt
very
that they must themselves be made publicity, inasmuch as well they are
known in all Europe, probably not in the great America......
Other issue is the extreme rivalry that the nomads have between of they,
time makes Mr.Habibi had said that not sell to me any meteorite why its
friend,
than then has uncovered who was inasmuch as he was my supplier,
had said to it that I never did not pay. Contacted
my friend, for having explanations, this it has said to me that they
were all used idiocys in order to carry the customers to others.
Therefore, seen the situation, I can very well think about all care
where he goes to end this money.....

Io non faccio nessuna scusa, io dico quello che penso e basta. Sinceramente
non capisco dove vada a finire tutto il denaro che questi nomadi prendono
vendendo meteoriti, visto che non vedo nessun miglioramento riguardo la loro
vita - hanno comprato una casa, hanno migliorato la loro vita? - io li vedo
sempre vivere uguale, nessun miglioramente, quindi, dove vanno a finire
tutti i soldi guadagnati? Riguardo i Pelisson dubito molto che loro si
debbano fare pubblicità, visto che sono bene conosciuti in tutta europa,
probabilmente non nella grande America......
Altra questione è l'estrema rivalità che i nomadi hanno tra di loro, tempo
fa Mr.Habibi aveva detto che a me non vendeva nessuna meteorite perchè un
altro suo amico, che poi ho scoperto chi era visto che era il mio fornitore,
gli aveva detto che io non pagavo mai. Contattato il mio amico, per avere
spiegazioni, questo mi ha detto che erano tutte idiozie usate per portare
via clienti ad altri. Quindi, vista la situazione, io posso benissimo
pensare di tutto riguardo dove vada a finire questo denaro.....


>From: j.divelbiss_at_att.net
>To: "aziz habibi " <desertman5_at_caramail.com>
>CC:
><meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com>,<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: Re: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
>Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 22:19:11 +0000
>
>Habibi and friends in NWA,
>
>As a simple collector of meteorites with a lot of NWA material in my
>collection, I want to say some things that support your efforts and
>livelihood.
>
>First off, do not let the off-based comments of a few jealous dealers upset
>the trust and good business practices you enjoy with the dealers you are
>used
>to working with. These comments made by the Pellisons and Matteo yesterday
>are intended to upset the people in NWA, and to drive away collectors like
>myself. We are not that easily influenced or ignorant to the fact that
>their
>actual motives are to slow down your business, and to draw attention to
>themselves in the hope of collectors like myself would want to buy from
>them
>instead. I would say there are very few, if any, that would fall for such
>tactics, and in fact their comments only reinforce the notion that I do
>not,
>and will not buy from those who make such comments.
>
>The Pellisons as Norbert pointed out yesterday have used similar propaganda
>on their website that pointed to the lack of documentation for NWA's as a
>reason not to buy them. As if this lack of documentation made these finds
>lesser meteorites. I have said this before and I'll say it again, it does
>not
>bother me that NWAs are not documented in great detail in all cases. I wish
>it could be improved, but it certainly does not affect my thinking when
>purchasing material. We know some of it is documented and that is good for
>those who want to look for more of the same material in a known location,
>and
>for those who want to understand the nature of desert finds and
>strewnfields.
>For me, the quantity and quality of material from NWA is excellent, and
>your
>folks have made it possible for both scientists and collectors to have a
>full
>assortment of material for their study and enjoyment. We as meteorite
>enthusiasts have had our situation improved greatly by these NWA finds.
>
>Now this latest accusation by the Pellisons and supporting comments by one
>person, Matteo, while minor in number, are slander and a major injustice to
>the good people in NWA who work hard at finding these stones. Their apology
>to you and others would be appropriate, but I doubt if they ever would do
>it.
>They are not that kind of people I'm afraid. If you can, forget about them
>and treat them as minor players in all this, because they are minor
>players.
>But remember them if and when they come to you and others in NWA looking
>for
>material, and be sure to turn them away empty handed. There are enough
>other
>dealers who will treat you more properly. You can always come to the list
>for
>support as your can see by the response of most who support the NWA cause.
>
>These lies are not nice, but you can see that we think they have no truth
>to
>them. We will still be supporting the NWA market for years to come. Tell
>your
>friends to keep their chins up and continue their search of more.
>
>Best Regards to the people of NWA,
>
>John
>
>
>
>
> >  
> > hello list hell all
> > all nwa will remember this day, my god what can people do to sell stone,
> > what happend to this wolrd, im sick of all this lies why all this what
>do you
> > want,
> > thanks dean thanks to all who awserd this lies , you think that the
>nomade do
> > not read what is on the list , they
> > go to archives and know everthing,
> > my god , why all this lies im so sick that im going to qiet
> > i m tired of all the lies that people write on this list.
> > im going to print this letter and give to nomade with the names of who
>write it
> > you lies abaout nwa and you lies abaout poor nomade and they are only
>looking
> > for eat,
> > why you do not let the nomade in there peace and desert , fight if you
>want but
> > let the poor nomade in peace
> > what we cant hear this time
> > its a shame,
> > no and no its a shame
> > who is this new loby againt nwa
> > you know who will lost , with lies , no its all of us , this type letter
>can
> > make stoping all the stone geting out from
> > nwa , and then nothing
> > why all this , why
> > why
> > why
> > its a shame
> > damn , cam this people sleep with there consciense
> > if they have consciense
> > i m so sick that i cam write
> > bye
> >
> >
> > ------- Message d'origine ------- 
> > De: Bernhard \ Rendelius\ Rems <rendelius_at_rpgdot.com> 
> > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:46:19 +0100 
> > Sujet: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? 
> >
> > Ok, now Matteo has admitted that he is Matt River.
> >
> > Bernhard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> > River
> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:35 PM
> > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
> >
> >
> > Farmer.... what you make the double game? You put the privat emails in
> > public? But like, to me you said not to make it and hour make it also
> > you? I wants to say that you go badly if you make therefore. However, if
> > I come banned from this list hour, wants to say that it is not for null
>
> > democratic inasmuch as I have not opened mouth and I not have
> > put
> > any public email to Farmer. If instead it will be made, I have an other
> > account,
> > and then an other anchor, and an other...
> >
> > Farmer....cosa fai il doppio gioco? Metti le email private pubbliche? Ma
> >
> > come, a me dicevi di non farlo e ora lo fai anche tu? Vuole dire che ti
> > và
> > male se fai così. Comunque, se vengo bannato da questa lista ora vuol
> > dire
> > che non è per nulla democratica visto che non ho aperto bocca mettendo
> > nessuna email pubblica. Se invece sarà fatto, fatelo pure, tanto ho un
> > altro
> > account, e poi un altro ancora, e un altro...
> >
> > >From: "Michael Farmer"
> > >To:
> > >Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
> > >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:31:44 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:01 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
> > >
> > >
>
> > > > We all know it is Matteo, he is so stupid that he
> > > > doesn't even know how to
> > > > lie well.
> > > > Mike Farmer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > shhhhhh...go go to sale your fake new diogenite and
> > > > new martian hahahaha....now I hope the NWA market
> > > > close, I want see after what you sold....
> > > >
> > > > =====
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