AW: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan
From: Jörn Koblitz <koblitz_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Dec 17 06:25:20 2004 Message-ID: <E5E6112EA31FA24CB448E091C6883C0517A7E0_at_server2000.microfab.de> Hello Martin and Zelimir, Additionally to what you listed, I could find the following repositories and weights for Chian Khan: 682g: Tucson, Haag Colln. 71g: Kankakee, Illinois, J.Schwade Colln. 67.9g: Z?rich, J.Nauber Colln. 44g: Kanagawa, Mus. Nat. Hist. Cheers, J?rn > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Martin Altmann [mailto:Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de] > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Dezember 2004 10:51 > An: Zelimir Gabelica; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan > > > Hi Zelimir, > > The "Catalogue" itself lists: > > 2588.4g UCLA > 224.5g Bartoschewitz > 189g New York Nat.Hist. > 106g Washington U.S.Nat.Mus. > 39g Paris Hist.Nat. > 32g Du Pont > 22g + 12.6g + 8.7g London, Nat.Hist. > 18.2g Berlin, Humboldt-Univ. > 14.82g Ottawa, Geol.Surv. > 9g Tempe > 7.7g Chicago, Field Mus. > 5g Albuquerque Univ New Mex > 2.4g Muenster Inst.f.Planetologie > > Not mentioned there is a 2.5kg stone in the Chulalongkorn University, > Bangkok > > Oliver Alge found on his 3 expeditions, which took together > almost 1 year, > altogether 606g > > The material confiscated after the fall from the laotic > military is lost. > > So we have without Haag's pieces already a tkw of ~6.4kg. > > Nevertheless it stays extremely difficult to get > and for heaven's sake I invite the list members again to buy > the remaining > pieces of Oliver, > as he needs the money to found his help project in the > strewnfield of Chiang > Khan, where he plans to move to. > Especially the European members should consider to take their > share on this > rare offer as the USD is weak as never before and the price > with 37$ per > gram is quite low. > > Meanwhile I made new photos of the remaining pieces and will > email them on > request. > Some of the pieces are fresh like a Juancheng and not so > brownish as it > seems on the pictures on Olivers page > http://www.meteorite-oliver.com/index.html > > So if you NEED NEW PHOTOS, please E-mail. > > The smallest cut is sold now, the 6.25g were Bernhard's > specimen and this > week the 41.1g killeroriented was gone too (I send a photo of > the back with > the rollover lip and the only partial molten surface to The > Picture of the > day). > > Remarkably from sice is the complete crusted stone of 70grams, > perhaps I should give it to captain Blood for the Tucson > auction, as here in > Germany most collectors have no glimpse, that they won't get a similar > specimen anymore in their collectors life and the more experienced > collectors in USA seems to fear complications, if they would > order from > another country, although it's fast, safe, easy and simple. > > The 23.2g fragment is the ugliest piece, concerning stainings. > > Extremely nice and fresh are the 12.2g broken individual and the 17.1g > individual, where only a small part is missing, both have > very nice black > fusion crust. > > If they'll be gone, they'll be gone. > > Ask Mike Farmer, what he thinks about this price, I bet he > never would give > away his two little specimens at such a low price. > > May someone ask Rob Haag, wether and how much grams he owns in his > collection? > 100% of the money will be used for the help project and for > that purpose. > > So let's go! > Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zelimir Gabelica" <Z.Gabelica_at_uha.fr> > To: <c> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:56 AM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan > > > Bernard, Martin, list, > > With all of our listees I also feel very sorry for Bernhard about the > burglary. > Bernhard, I wish you could rapidly overcome your angriness > and re-positive > again. Positiving is perhaps, in this case, considering that > the good news > is that the other 600 items were ignored by...ignorant burglars. > But life is full of (also) nice surprises. No doubt Stefan > (Ralew) will > soon have some more beauties to propose you. I just remember > his superb > display table in Ensisheim and regret not having found time > to look more > closely at. > > Regarding Chiang Khan, I agree that these are very seldom > seen as offer. > There should be some nice pieces in collections or museums though. > I was lucky to acquire a complete 100% crusted individual of 41 grams > (probably from David New in the 1995's). Considering the mass > existing in > other collections (I remember Haag is mentioning having a considerable > mass) I just wonder whether the TKW as mentioned in catalogs (also in > Meteorites from A to Z), namely only 367 grams (total 31 > pieces recovered), > is correct? > Did someone make a (more recent) compilation or have updated > repositories ? > Bernd ? J?rn ? > > Best wishes, > > Zelimir > > > A 22:44 16/12/04 +0100, vous avez ?crit : > >So it would be helpful, whenever someone from the list will > get an offer > for > >Chiang Khan or if he/she detects a piece of Chiang Khan on > ebay to contact > >Bernhard, > >as Chiang Khan is a superrare locality, which nobody has for > sale (only > >Oliver Alge and in his collection Bartoschewitz has some and > perhaps Haag I > >heard) and I remember well to whome I sold specimens for Oliver. > > > >Thanks! > >Martin > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bernhard Rems" <bernhard_at_bgrems.com> > >To: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > >Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:24 PM > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Burglary > > > > > >Hi, > > > >Just wanted to tell you that my flat has been robbed and > devastated today. > >The thieves stole all my smaller electronical equipment, a > collection of > >roman coins, a collection of golden coins from the Austrian Hungarian > empire > >and other things of value. They completely ignored my > meteorite collection > >with over 600 items, except for a small portion of > meteorites that were > >laying on my table with the PDA and the iPod. These > meteorites were those I > >purchased from Stefan Ralew a few days ago, and the nice > Chiang Khan I got > >from Martin Altmann. > > > >I have no idea why they took these and nothing else. > > > >Bernhard > > > >PS: No insurance. Me idiot. > > > > > >______________________________________________ > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > >______________________________________________ > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > Prof. Zelimir Gabelica > Universit? de Haute Alsace > ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, > 3, Rue A. Werner, > F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France > Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 > Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 > > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Received on Fri 17 Dec 2004 06:26:46 AM PST |
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