[meteorite-list] Amgala allegatons: fact or fancy?
From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon Aug 9 02:26:09 2004 Message-ID: <000701c47dd8$7f506680$6401a8c0_at_c1720188a> Dear John and List, Let me make a quick clarification. 65% of what has been coming out of Morocco lately being sold as Amgala is actually Zag and is being supplied by a single source to other Moroccans who in turn have been selling them to dealers. I was shipped 4.6 Kilos of Zag that was sold as Amgala and sent it back to see it sold again as Amgala. How do I know it was Zag? Some specimens have a dark litholgy Oxidation was found surrounding metal deep inside cut pieces There was pink calcite in some fusion crust cracks The crust on Zag is sometimes frothy on trailing edges None of the specimens had a brown sheen on the exterior The metal distribution is somewhat different We have exposed several problem or fake meteorites in the past like some bogus Martian material, Chixalube and the nickel test kits that give false positives. We were the first to publicly talk about Shirokovsky being counterfeit. I will not bring this subject up again since a few dealers have a problem with it. Next time I will mind my own business and let the buyers sort it out for themselves. Wishing everybody the best, ------------------------------------ Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 raremeteorites_at_comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Birdsell" <birdsell_at_email.arizona.edu> To: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 9:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Amgala allegatons: fact or fancy? > Dear List and Adam. Adam, in a recent email to the > list (see below) you claimed that "~65% of the > dealers" selling Amgalas were selling something other > than Amgala. Neither Mark Bostick, nor we have seen > anyone selling fake Amgalas and we find this claim of > yours somewhat difficult to believe. Could you please > tell the meteorite-list members the facts upon > which your statistics were based? It > seems that if you are going to make serious > allegations that smear "~65% of the dealers" out > there, at a minimum you should back your allegations > with facts. We are sure the whole meteorite community > (including the "~65% of dealers" supposedly selling > fake Amgalas) would greatly appreciate hearing the evidence > upon which your based your statement. > > > Thanks > > > John & Dawn > Arizona Skies Meteorites > > > > Adam Hupe wrote: > > Hi Matteo and List, > > Apparently you have run into some dishonesty, I > believe it is called a bait and switch situation. > You think you are buying Amgala and you get Zag > instead, a common occurrence these days. The Amgala > fall is real, ~65% of the dealers who think they are > selling the real McCoy are in error because > they believe their Moroccan supplier. You can blame > this on the source, not the dealers who are marketing it. > > Kind Regards, > > ------------------------------------ > Adam Hupe > The Hupe Collection > Team LunarRock > IMCA 2185 > > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Mon 09 Aug 2004 02:16:58 AM PDT |
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