[meteorite-list] The problems with Amgala

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat Aug 7 04:26:47 2004
Message-ID: <000601c47c56$db254120$6401a8c0_at_c1720188a>

Hi Matteo and List,

Apparently you have run into some dishonesty, I believe it is called a bait
and switch situation. You think you are buying Amgala and you get Zag
instead, a common occurrence these days. The Amgala fall is real, ~65% of
the dealers who think they are selling the real McCoy are in error because
they believe their Moroccan supplier. You can blame this on the source, not
the dealers who are marketing it.

Kind Regards,

------------------------------------
Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
IMCA 2185
raremeteorites_at_comcast.net





----- Original Message -----
From: "Mauro Daniel" <rocksfromspace_at_hotmail.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] The problems with Amgala


> Amgala from what I have see from the piece I have cut is paired 100% to
Zag,
> same matrix, same breccia, same full metal....I hope only the Amgala fall
is
> not a fake fall only for sale extra pieces of Zag meteorite pass for a new
> fall.....
>
>
> >From: "stan ." <laser_maniac_at_hotmail.com>
> >To: raremeteorites_at_comcast.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] The problems with Amgala
> >Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 20:57:01 +0000
> >
> >
> >>The problem is that Amgala has not been completely classified yet so it
is
> >>being sold as an unclassified meteorite. One of the reasons it is taking
> >>so
> >>long to classify is that many interesting features have been found in
> >>Amgala
> >>and the scientists want to describe them properly, something every fall
> >>deserves.
> >
> >
> >Adam, please forgive me for being overly cynical, but what does the
> >classification results have to do with the signifigant dip seen in the
> >price of amgala? regardless of what it classifies as, your price for
stones
> >already in your possesion arent going to change. if it gets classified as
a
> >common stone the price isnt going to go up. if it gets classified as
> >something exotic the price would go up, but we ahve only seen a steady
> >downward trend in the prices - you can find smallish well crusted amgalas
> >selling on ebay pretty regularly at 5$ a gram - not as good a deal as i
> >just got for buying a large stone - but still about 50% of the price
being
> >asked when it first came out.
> >
> >this trend isnt really seen in only amgala - look at lunar material -
years
> >ago it was all priced at several thousand $ a gram - now you can get it
for
> >a few hundred per gram. NWA 1929 was going for 50 to 100$ a gram and now
> >you can buy it for 20$ - or even as low as 5$ if you buy a big piece.
> >olivine diogenite was going for what, 600$ a gram now you see people
> >offering it in the 100$ ballpark. kickass LL3's like begga were several
> >tens of $ a gram and now they can be had for 2$ a gram. look at what
> >happened to park forrest prices.
> >
> >when stuff first comes out - be it a rare classification - or just an
> >especially nice new fall it's price tends to be high - after a while more
> >and more sources of the material open up, and competition drives the
prices
> >down. it's not about dealers not having business sense - it's about free
> >market dynamics pushing the prices where they need to be based upon the
> >laws of supply and demand.
> >
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Received on Sat 07 Aug 2004 04:16:34 AM PDT