[meteorite-list] Serious question?
From: Howard Wu <freewu2000_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:29:57 2004 Message-ID: <20030918003955.70477.qmail_at_web9307.mail.yahoo.com> --0-367773930-1063845595=:69203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Two linked reactions: One is "oxidized"; the other is "reduced". Howard Wu "Charles R. Viau" <cviau_at_beld.net> wrote: Ok, so for the symantics of that definition, would you call that a “reduction reaction not involving oxygen”, and not “oxidation” .. ? -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-admin@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of S. Singletary Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:23 PM To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question? At 08:10 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, Charles R. Viau wrote: Oxidation - Definition -> Combining a substance with oxygen. Strictly speaking oxidation is the loss of electrons. The electrons need somewhere to go so something is going to gain electrons and that is the reduction part. So to undergo oxidation, something has to be reduced - usually it's oxygen that accepts the wayward electrons but it doesn't always have to be so. For example: Ba + F2 -> BaF2 is an oxidation-reduction reaction that doesn't involve oxygen. Here F is the oxydizing agent. Steven Steven Singletary 54-1224 Dept. Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences M.I.T. Cambridge, MA, 02139 Tel-617.253.6398 Fax-617.253.7102 Blue Skies! --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-367773930-1063845595=:69203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <DIV>Two linked reactions: One is "oxidized"; the other is "reduced".</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Howard Wu</DIV> <DIV> <BR><BR><B><I>"Charles R. Viau" <cviau_at_beld.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Generator> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml_at_01C37D5A.DEFC6F40" rel=File-List> <STYLE> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ _at_font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:1627421319 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} _at_page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </STYLE> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ok, so for the <SPAN class=SpellE>symantics</SPAN> of that definition, would you call that a “reduction reaction not involving oxygen”, and not “oxidation<SPAN class=GramE>” ..</SPAN> <SPAN class=GramE>?</SPAN><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-admin@meteoritecentral.com] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>S. Singletary<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:23 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">At 08:10 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, Charles R. Viau wrote:<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Oxidation - Definition -> Combining a substance with oxygen.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Strictly speaking oxidation is the loss of electrons. The electrons need somewhere to go so something is going to gain electrons and that is the reduction part. So to undergo oxidation, something has to be reduced - usually it's oxygen that accepts the wayward electrons but it doesn't always have to be so.<BR><BR>For example:<BR>Ba + F</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">2</SPAN></FONT> -> BaF<FONT size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">2</SPAN></FONT> is an oxidation-reduction reaction that doesn't involve oxygen. Here F is the oxydizing agent.<BR><BR>Steven<BR><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><o:p></o:p></P><X-SIGSEP> <P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"></X-SIGSEP><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Steven Singletary<BR>54-1224<BR>Dept. Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences<BR>M.I.T.<BR>Cambridge, MA, 02139<BR>Tel-617.253.6398<BR>Fax-617.253.7102<BR><BR>Blue Skies!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr size=1><font face="Arial" size="2">Want to chat instantly with your online friends? <a href="http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/"><b>Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger</b></a></font> --0-367773930-1063845595=:69203-- Received on Wed 17 Sep 2003 08:39:55 PM PDT |
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