[meteorite-list] Serious question?

From: Howard Wu <freewu2000_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:29:57 2004
Message-ID: <20030918003955.70477.qmail_at_web9307.mail.yahoo.com>

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Two linked reactions: One is "oxidized"; the other is "reduced".
 
Howard Wu
 

"Charles R. Viau" <cviau_at_beld.net> wrote:


Ok, so for the symantics of that definition, would you call that a “reduction reaction not involving oxygen”, and not “oxidation” .. ?

 

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At 08:10 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, Charles R. Viau wrote:



Oxidation - Definition -> Combining a substance with oxygen.


Strictly speaking oxidation is the loss of electrons. The electrons need somewhere to go so something is going to gain electrons and that is the reduction part. So to undergo oxidation, something has to be reduced - usually it's oxygen that accepts the wayward electrons but it doesn't always have to be so.

For example:
Ba + F2 -> BaF2 is an oxidation-reduction reaction that doesn't involve oxygen. Here F is the oxydizing agent.

Steven




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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-admin@meteoritecentral.com] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>S. Singletary<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:23 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">At 08:10 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, Charles R. Viau wrote:<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Oxidation -&nbsp; Definition -&gt; Combining a substance with oxygen.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Strictly speaking oxidation is the loss of electrons.&nbsp; The electrons need somewhere to go so something is going to gain electrons and that is the reduction part.&nbsp; So to undergo oxidation, something has to be reduced - usually it's oxygen that accepts the wayward electrons but it doesn't always have to be so.<BR><BR>For example:<BR>Ba + F</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">2</SPAN></FONT> -&gt; BaF<FONT size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">2</SPAN></FONT> is an oxidation-reduction reaction that doesn't involve oxygen.&nbsp; Here F is the oxydizing agent.<BR><BR>Steven<BR><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><o:p></o:p></P><X-SIGSEP>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"></X-SIGSEP><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Steven Singletary<BR>54-1224<BR>Dept. Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences<BR>M.I.T.<BR>Cambridge, MA, 02139<BR>Tel-617.253.6398<BR>Fax-617.253.7102<BR><BR>Blue Skies!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr size=1><font face="Arial" size="2">Want to chat instantly with your online friends? <a href="http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/"><b>Get the FREE Yahoo!
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