[meteorite-list] Serious question?
From: Charles R. Viau <cviau_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:29:57 2004 Message-ID: <000d01c37d7c$6b0740c0$1800a8c0_at_chupa> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C37D5A.E3F5A0C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, so for the symantics of that definition, would you call that a "reduction reaction not involving oxygen", and not "oxidation" .. ? -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of S. Singletary Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:23 PM To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question? At 08:10 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, Charles R. Viau wrote: Oxidation - Definition -> Combining a substance with oxygen. Strictly speaking oxidation is the loss of electrons. The electrons need somewhere to go so something is going to gain electrons and that is the reduction part. So to undergo oxidation, something has to be reduced - usually it's oxygen that accepts the wayward electrons but it doesn't always have to be so. For example: Ba + F2 -> BaF2 is an oxidation-reduction reaction that doesn't involve oxygen. Here F is the oxydizing agent. Steven Steven Singletary 54-1224 Dept. Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences M.I.T. Cambridge, MA, 02139 Tel-617.253.6398 Fax-617.253.7102 Blue Skies! ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C37D5A.E3F5A0C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml_at_01C37D5A.DEFC6F40"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ _at_font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:1627421319 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} _at_page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ok, so for the <span = class=3DSpellE>symantics</span> of that definition, would you call that a “reduction reaction not involving oxygen”, and not “oxidation<span = class=3DGramE>” ..</span> <span class=3DGramE>?</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] <b><span = style=3D'font-weight: bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>S. Singletary<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, = September 17, 2003 8:23 PM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: = [meteorite-list] Serious question?</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>At 08:10 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, Charles R. Viau = wrote:<br style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'> <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br = style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Oxidation - Definition -> Combining = a substance with oxygen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br> Strictly speaking oxidation is the loss of electrons. The = electrons need somewhere to go so something is going to gain electrons and that is the reduction part. So to undergo oxidation, something has to be = reduced - usually it's oxygen that accepts the wayward electrons but it doesn't = always have to be so.<br> <br> For example:<br> Ba + F</span></font><font size=3D1><span = style=3D'font-size:7.5pt'>2</span></font> -> BaF<font size=3D1><span style=3D'font-size:7.5pt'>2</span></font> = is an oxidation-reduction reaction that doesn't involve oxygen. Here F = is the oxydizing agent.<br> <br> Steven<br> <br style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'> <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br = style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></p> <x-sigsep> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'></x-sigsep><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times = New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Steven Singletary<br> 54-1224<br> Dept. Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences<br> M.I.T.<br> Cambridge, MA, 02139<br> Tel-617.253.6398<br> Fax-617.253.7102<br> <br> Blue Skies!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C37D5A.E3F5A0C0-- Received on Wed 17 Sep 2003 08:32:53 PM PDT |
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