[meteorite-list] 'Paul Revere' Scientist Suggests Unusual Asteroid Warning System

From: Jeff Kuyken <jeff_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:27:47 2004
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If such a project was ever going to take place then maybe they just need =
to think in dollars. Put a $10+ million reward/grant for the first =
institution to discover and certify a NEO posing a very serious or =
imminent risk to Earth. There might be plenty of people willing to =
invest in the program then!

Jeff Kuyken
I.M.C.A. #3085
www.meteoritesaustralia.com


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ron Baalke=20
  To: Meteorite Mailing List=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:44 AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] 'Paul Revere' Scientist Suggests Unusual =
Asteroid Warning System




  http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1103/asteroid_warning_system.asp

  'Paul Revere' scientist suggests unusual asteroid warning system=20
  Jewish World Review
  November 2003

  Just last month, a meteorite slammed into a village in eastern India.

  Eleven people were injured and two homes were destroyed by
  fire.

  Perhaps more unsettling, in 1908, a space rock screamed into
  Earth's atmosphere, exploding in the sky over a remote Siberian
  forest with a force greater than a 10-megaton nuclear blast.

  Fires started, wildlife perished and trees fell for miles in every
  direction.

  These days, efforts underway to detect comets and asteroids on
  a potential collision course with Earth include an unassuming
  scientist from Ridgewood, N.J., with an idea for a better method.

  William A. Hoffman III doesn't have a company, or investors for
  his detection system, called "Looking out for you." But he
  received a patent (U.S. No. 6,452,538), and some distinguished
  astronomers say his idea is intriguing.

  Hoffman wants to place telescopes on the outer-space side of
  telecommunications satellites where they can continuously scan
  the heavens, free from cloud cover that often hampers earthbound
  telescopes, to look for what astronomers call NEOs, or Near
  Earth Objects.

  The data would beam down to a ground station and be sent - for
  a fee - to schools or institutions or individuals who could use it
  to pinpoint the rocks' orbit.

  "I can't speak for NASA, but personally I think it's a great idea if
  he can make it work," said Dan Mazenek, an aerospace engineer based at =
NASA's
  Langley Research Center and director of a study on how best to search =
for large comets
  and asteroids that might strike Earth.

  "If he can get the money to put telescopes up there then I'm =
interested in the results,"
  said Lucy McFadden.

  McFadden was one of thirteen scientists and researchers who signed an =
open letter to
  Congress in July warning of the threat from space and urging the =
government to invest
  in some kind of system to help guard against a significant hit.

  Hoffman is an unimposing man with a polite, professorial manner who =
acknowledges
  with good humor that many people might find his idea sort of, well, =
pie in the sky. And
  he's also realistic enough to know he'll have to make a lot of noise =
to get any investors
  interested.

  "If I have to fund it myself it's not going to happen at all," he =
said.

  He believes colleges and universities without an astronomy program =
might be willing to
  pay for the telescope data.

  And individuals could access it via the Internet, where subscription =
fees and advertising
  might bring in revenue.

  "There are lots and lots of people that would buy into the idea of =
helping protect the
  Earth by signing onto a program like this," said Kelly Beatty, =
executive editor of Sky &
  Telescope magazine. Whether they would pay for the privilege is =
another question, he
  added.

  Beatty and others also raised numerous questions about technical =
aspects of Hoffman's
  idea.

  Would the telecommunications companies that own the satellites agree =
to the plan?

  Would cosmic rays interfere with the images?

  How exactly would the raw data be processed into pictures of the =
heavens?

  And perhaps the biggest issue: cost.

  "We always ask, could this be accomplished from the ground?" said Neil =
deGrasse
  Tyson, an astrophysicist and director of the Hayden Planetarium at the =
American
  Museum of Natural History. He was skeptical of Hoffman's plan, he =
said, because "it's
  more expensive to do anything in space."

  But Tyson, who also signed the July letter to Congress, agreed there =
was a need to get
  something in place to identify dangerous space rocks.

  "There is no organized effort to monitor the sky continuously," he =
said.

  Hoffman, a graduate of Wayne High School who attended the Air Force =
Academy and
  received his doctorate in organic chemistry from Stevens Institute, =
acknowledged the
  challenges but welcomed any scrutiny.

  "The more people that start paying attention to this idea, the more =
likely it's all going to
  work," said Hoffman, who spent his career working for a number of =
chemical companies
  including Union Carbide before becoming a chemical industry =
consultant.

  Hoffman said the beauty of his early warning system is its relatively =
low cost.

  He estimates putting the first telescope up might fall in the range of =
$2 million to $3
  million, much of which would pay for the extensive testing needed to =
make sure the
  piggybacked telescope wouldn't interfere with the satellite's primary =
job of sending
  phone or TV signals down to earth.

  The communications satellites are perfect, he said, because they are =
geo-stationary.
  That is, they stay in one spot, moving as the earth moves so the =
telescopes would be
  positioned around the planet and could watch wide areas of space.

  "You're watching all the time; you're seeing a movie of the stars," =
said Hoffman.

  As for actually seeing his dream become real, Hoffman acknowledges =
many hurdles.

  "Somebody's got to agree that it can go on their satellite and =
somebody's going to be
  involved in the collection and distribution of the data," he said.

  Several satellite operators, including PanAmSat and Loral Skynet, =
couldn't find anyone
  to comment on Hoffman's plan.

  Hoffman said he approached a number of large corporations, including =
Disney, Time
  Warner, and Kodak, to gauge their interest.

  The corporate interest hasn't exactly been high, he admits, although =
he's contacting
  some companies again in light of the scientists' July letter to =
Congress.

  The 58-year-old amateur astronomer also said that although he'd enjoy =
reaping
  financial benefits from his project, he wouldn't mind if the =
government paid him
  something nominal for his patent if they promised to put the system in =
place.

  Astronomers point to the 1994 collision of the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 =
with Jupiter as
  an example of the force and devastation that can occur when one of a =
swarm of comets
  and asteroids in our solar system slams into a planet.

  The massive blast created a dust cloud larger than Earth itself.

  "You don't want to say `Gee, we missed that one,'" said Hoffman. =20

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  href=3D"mailto:baalke_at_zagami.jpl.nasa.gov">Ron Baalke</A> </DIV>
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2003 8:44=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] 'Paul =
Revere'=20
  Scientist Suggests Unusual Asteroid Warning System</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1103/asteroid_warning_system.asp=
">http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1103/asteroid_warning_system.asp</A><B=
R><BR>'Paul=20
  Revere' scientist suggests unusual asteroid warning system <BR>Jewish =
World=20
  Review<BR>November 2003<BR><BR>Just last month, a meteorite slammed =
into a=20
  village in eastern India.<BR><BR>Eleven people were injured and two =
homes were=20
  destroyed by<BR>fire.<BR><BR>Perhaps more unsettling, in 1908, a space =
rock=20
  screamed into<BR>Earth's atmosphere, exploding in the sky over a =
remote=20
  Siberian<BR>forest with a force greater than a 10-megaton nuclear=20
  blast.<BR><BR>Fires started, wildlife perished and trees fell for =
miles in=20
  every<BR>direction.<BR><BR>These days, efforts underway to detect =
comets and=20
  asteroids on<BR>a potential collision course with Earth include an=20
  unassuming<BR>scientist from Ridgewood, N.J., with an idea for a =
better=20
  method.<BR><BR>William A. Hoffman III doesn't have a company, or =
investors=20
  for<BR>his detection system, called "Looking out for you." But =
he<BR>received=20
  a patent (U.S. No. 6,452,538), and some distinguished<BR>astronomers =
say his=20
  idea is intriguing.<BR><BR>Hoffman wants to place telescopes on the=20
  outer-space side of<BR>telecommunications satellites where they can=20
  continuously scan<BR>the heavens, free from cloud cover that often =
hampers=20
  earthbound<BR>telescopes, to look for what astronomers call NEOs, or=20
  Near<BR>Earth Objects.<BR><BR>The data would beam down to a ground =
station and=20
  be sent - for<BR>a fee - to schools or institutions or individuals who =
could=20
  use it<BR>to pinpoint the rocks' orbit.<BR><BR>"I can't speak for =
NASA, but=20
  personally I think it's a great idea if<BR>he can make it work," said =
Dan=20
  Mazenek, an aerospace engineer based at NASA's<BR>Langley Research =
Center and=20
  director of a study on how best to search for large comets<BR>and =
asteroids=20
  that might strike Earth.<BR><BR>"If he can get the money to put =
telescopes up=20
  there then I'm interested in the results,"<BR>said Lucy=20
  McFadden.<BR><BR>McFadden was one of thirteen scientists and =
researchers who=20
  signed an open letter to<BR>Congress in July warning of the threat =
from space=20
  and urging the government to invest<BR>in some kind of system to help =
guard=20
  against a significant hit.<BR><BR>Hoffman is an unimposing man with a =
polite,=20
  professorial manner who acknowledges<BR>with good humor that many =
people might=20
  find his idea sort of, well, pie in the sky. And<BR>he's also =
realistic enough=20
  to know he'll have to make a lot of noise to get any=20
  investors<BR>interested.<BR><BR>"If I have to fund it myself it's not =
going to=20
  happen at all," he said.<BR><BR>He believes colleges and universities =
without=20
  an astronomy program might be willing to<BR>pay for the telescope=20
  data.<BR><BR>And individuals could access it via the Internet, where=20
  subscription fees and advertising<BR>might bring in =
revenue.<BR><BR>"There are=20
  lots and lots of people that would buy into the idea of helping =
protect=20
  the<BR>Earth by signing onto a program like this," said Kelly Beatty,=20
  executive editor of Sky &amp;<BR>Telescope magazine. Whether they =
would pay=20
  for the privilege is another question, he<BR>added.<BR><BR>Beatty and =
others=20
  also raised numerous questions about technical aspects of=20
  Hoffman's<BR>idea.<BR><BR>Would the telecommunications companies that =
own the=20
  satellites agree to the plan?<BR><BR>Would cosmic rays interfere with =
the=20
  images?<BR><BR>How exactly would the raw data be processed into =
pictures of=20
  the heavens?<BR><BR>And perhaps the biggest issue: cost.<BR><BR>"We =
always=20
  ask, could this be accomplished from the ground?" said Neil =
deGrasse<BR>Tyson,=20
  an astrophysicist and director of the Hayden Planetarium at the=20
  American<BR>Museum of Natural History. He was skeptical of Hoffman's =
plan, he=20
  said, because "it's<BR>more expensive to do anything in =
space."<BR><BR>But=20
  Tyson, who also signed the July letter to Congress, agreed there was a =
need to=20
  get<BR>something in place to identify dangerous space =
rocks.<BR><BR>"There is=20
  no organized effort to monitor the sky continuously," he =
said.<BR><BR>Hoffman,=20
  a graduate of Wayne High School who attended the Air Force Academy=20
  and<BR>received his doctorate in organic chemistry from Stevens =
Institute,=20
  acknowledged the<BR>challenges but welcomed any scrutiny.<BR><BR>"The =
more=20
  people that start paying attention to this idea, the more likely it's =
all=20
  going to<BR>work," said Hoffman, who spent his career working for a =
number of=20
  chemical companies<BR>including Union Carbide before becoming a =
chemical=20
  industry consultant.<BR><BR>Hoffman said the beauty of his early =
warning=20
  system is its relatively low cost.<BR><BR>He estimates putting the =
first=20
  telescope up might fall in the range of $2 million to $3<BR>million, =
much of=20
  which would pay for the extensive testing needed to make sure=20
  the<BR>piggybacked telescope wouldn't interfere with the satellite's =
primary=20
  job of sending<BR>phone or TV signals down to earth.<BR><BR>The =
communications=20
  satellites are perfect, he said, because they are =
geo-stationary.<BR>That is,=20
  they stay in one spot, moving as the earth moves so the telescopes =
would=20
  be<BR>positioned around the planet and could watch wide areas of=20
  space.<BR><BR>"You're watching all the time; you're seeing a movie of =
the=20
  stars," said Hoffman.<BR><BR>As for actually seeing his dream become =
real,=20
  Hoffman acknowledges many hurdles.<BR><BR>"Somebody's got to agree =
that it can=20
  go on their satellite and somebody's going to be<BR>involved in the =
collection=20
  and distribution of the data," he said.<BR><BR>Several satellite =
operators,=20
  including PanAmSat and Loral Skynet, couldn't find anyone<BR>to =
comment on=20
  Hoffman's plan.<BR><BR>Hoffman said he approached a number of large=20
  corporations, including Disney, Time<BR>Warner, and Kodak, to gauge =
their=20
  interest.<BR><BR>The corporate interest hasn't exactly been high, he =
admits,=20
  although he's contacting<BR>some companies again in light of the =
scientists'=20
  July letter to Congress.<BR><BR>The 58-year-old amateur astronomer =
also said=20
  that although he'd enjoy reaping<BR>financial benefits from his =
project, he=20
  wouldn't mind if the government paid him<BR>something nominal for his =
patent=20
  if they promised to put the system in place.<BR><BR>Astronomers point =
to the=20
  1994 collision of the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 with Jupiter as<BR>an =
example of=20
  the force and devastation that can occur when one of a swarm of =
comets<BR>and=20
  asteroids in our solar system slams into a planet.<BR><BR>The massive =
blast=20
  created a dust cloud larger than Earth itself.<BR><BR>"You don't want =
to say=20
  `Gee, we missed that one,'" said Hoffman.&nbsp;=20
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