[meteorite-list] Chicxulub Meteorite
From: fcressy <fcressy_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:27:46 2004 Message-ID: <006601c3a700$7e037420$cd711e43_at_pavilion> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C3A6BD.6E4D5F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I believe that the Chicxulub crater is buried by a couple thousand feet = of Tertiary sediments so wouldn't expect to find any material in beach = sands in the Chicxulub area. I think the closest area where K/T = impactite material is exposed is along the Mexico/Belize border. I guess = the material offered still could be of meteoritic origin but certainly = is not material from the K/T boundary, or as stated, from "the Big One". = My 2 cents, Frank ----- Original Message -----=20 From: magellon=20 To: Dave Harris ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chicxulub Meteorite Dave,=20 A better example is here: (more ridiculous excuses)=20 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2200664192=20 I wrote Mr. Shomin and asked how he got the material.=20 he wrote: "I took a trip to cancun, then took a car trip to Chicxulub = -& used=20 a magnet for final separation fron beach sand, then did a nickel test = at home.=20 Magnification reveales more detail like shiny metal flakes & metal = balls=20 from heat - most samples have native soil stuck to it, my results are = open=20 to the jugdement of others with better equipment. While i do have a=20 2 week return policy if any customer would complain i would refund at = any time.=20 Fair? If you can get a hold of better equipment i would be willing to = send=20 you a free sample for evaluation. Bernie M-M"=20 I suggested (1) tell the truth to the bidders and (2) send a sample = to NEMS=20 to first verify if was meteoritic.=20 He added the addendum but didn't send any to NEMS.=20 (He indicated it was because he had less than a gram)=20 Sorry, he should have done this before putting any up for sale.=20 So there is no meteoritic verification, much less an actual Chicxulub = meteorite=20 as advertised.=20 Secondly, Steve Schoner found this article saying that drill samplings = show that=20 the meteorite was probably a carbonaceous chondrite.=20 Even this small sample was fossilized. There is no proof that=20 any original meteorite still exits other than the iridium layer.=20 http://www.nature.com/nsu/981126/981126-1.html=20 Best,=20 ken newton=20 #9632=20 =20 =20 =20 Dave Harris wrote:=20 Hi folks,=20 I would be grateful for a bit of input re this eBAy item below.=20 = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D3239&item=3D2200= 663512=20 What has impressed me is that there is no Frass rant, or BCC rant or = Mo=20 Yousef insistance. This is a good start for a scientific discussion = as=20 already we haven't got our backs up over this!=20 thoughts please!!!=20 very best=20 dave=20 IMCA #0092=20 ______________________________________________=20 Meteorite-list mailing list=20 Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C3A6BD.6E4D5F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I believe that the Chicxulub crater is buried by a = couple=20 thousand feet of Tertiary sediments so wouldn't expect to find any = material in=20 beach sands in the Chicxulub area. I think the closest area where K/T = impactite=20 material is exposed is along the Mexico/Belize border. I guess the = material=20 offered still could be of meteoritic origin but certainly is not = material from=20 the K/T boundary, or as stated, from "the Big One". </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>My 2 cents,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Frank</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:magellon_at_earthlink.net"=20 title=3Dmagellon_at_earthlink.net>magellon</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:entropydave_at_ntlworld.com" = title=3Dentropydave_at_ntlworld.com>Dave=20 Harris</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 09, 2003 = 9:56=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Chicxulub=20 Meteorite</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Dave,=20 <P>A better example is here: (more ridiculous excuses) <BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D22006641= 92">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2200664192</= A>=20 <P>I wrote Mr. Shomin and asked how he got the material. <BR>he wrote: = "I took=20 a trip to cancun, then took a car trip to Chicxulub -& used <BR>a = magnet=20 for final separation fron beach sand, then did a nickel test at home.=20 <BR>Magnification reveales more detail like shiny metal flakes & = metal=20 balls <BR>from heat - most samples have native soil stuck to it, my = results=20 are open <BR>to the jugdement of others with better equipment. = While i=20 do have a <BR>2 week return policy if any customer would complain i = would=20 refund at any time. <BR>Fair? If you can get a hold of better = equipment i=20 would be willing to send <BR>you a free sample for evaluation. Bernie = M-M"=20 <P>I suggested (1) tell the truth to the bidders and (2) send a = sample=20 to NEMS <BR>to first verify if was meteoritic. <BR>He added the = addendum=20 but didn't send any to NEMS. <BR>(He indicated it was because he had = less than=20 a gram) <BR>Sorry, he should have done this before putting any up for = sale.=20 <BR>So there is no meteoritic verification, much less an actual = Chicxulub=20 meteorite <BR>as advertised.=20 <P>Secondly, Steve Schoner found this article saying that drill = samplings show=20 that <BR>the meteorite was probably a carbonaceous chondrite. = <BR>Even=20 this small sample was fossilized. There is no proof that <BR>any = original meteorite still exits other than the iridium layer. = <BR> <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.nature.com/nsu/981126/981126-1.html">http://www.nature= .com/nsu/981126/981126-1.html</A>=20 <P>Best, <BR>ken newton <BR>#9632 <BR> <BR> <BR> =20 <P>Dave Harris wrote:=20 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">Hi folks,=20 <P>I would be grateful for a bit of input re this eBAy item below.=20 <P><A=20 = href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D3239= &item=3D2200663512">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&= ;category=3D3239&item=3D2200663512</A>=20 <P>What has impressed me is that there is no Frass rant, or BCC rant = or Mo=20 <BR>Yousef insistance. This is a good start for a scientific=20 discussion as <BR>already we haven't got our backs up over this!=20 <P>thoughts please!!!=20 <P>very best=20 <P>dave=20 <P>IMCA #0092=20 <P>______________________________________________ <BR>Meteorite-list = mailing=20 list <BR>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com <BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list">http://w= ww.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</A></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLO= CKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C3A6BD.6E4D5F20-- Received on Sun 09 Nov 2003 03:31:42 PM PST |
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