[meteorite-list] weight descrepency

From: Tom aka James Knudson <knudson911_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:44 2004
Message-ID: <00bd01c322fc$13c6bb40$90c943d8_at_malcolm>

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Hello Pekka, Thanks for your offer, but You should send it to Steve =
Drummond, not me. I have no problem with you, You are trying to help. =
Nancy calling mike and I anal for our views upset me. The PF example is =
where it could go if this practice does not stop.=20
Thanks, Tom
The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Pekka Savolainen=20
  To: Tom aka James Knudson=20
  Cc: meteorite list=20
  Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 1:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] weight descrepency



  Hello, Tom and the list,

  no one have said this is right and I=B4m trying to work to get this
  case corrected. Anyway, if you=B4ll send to me your adress, I=B4ll
  send to you a 69 grams NWA...weight without packing material.

  This is a one-time offer, no other customers, please...;-

  take care,

  pekka

  Tom aka James Knudson wrote:

    Hello Pekka and Nancy, If you are on ebay and see a 10g PF and are =
willing to pay top price of about $40 a gram, that is $400!!! If you get =
the PF and it weighs 1 gram you just paid $360 for a box!!! That is not =
right!!!!! Nancy, if you are so ANAL to think that's ok, I will sell you =
all the box's you want!!=20
    Thanks, Tom
    The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Pekka Savolainen=20
      To: Steven Drummond=20
      Cc: meteorite list=20
      Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 12:56 PM
      Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] weight descrepency



      Hello, Steve and the list,

      I have sent an e-mail to Carlos, but haven=B4t recived the reply =
yet. I tried to make clear,
      the meteorites is a different thing than minerals, and he has to =
give exact weight of them
      in the description, WITHOUT the packing material.

      Got an e-mail from Nancy Starnd from Alaska, and perhaps this also =
tells, in minerals is=20
      important to know the total weight of the parcell to figure the =
shipping. It makes no sence
      to bid for piece some USD 2.00 and then pay USD 20.00 for the =
shipping. But this
      is in minerals, not in meteorites.

      I=B4ll inform you immediatly, when recive the reply from Carlos. I =
suppose, I=B4m going to Spain
      and Morocco this summer, so if this doesn=B4t work, I can show =
him, how to weight a meteo-
      rite and how to descripe the weight correctly in listnings. All =
this if I=B4m still alive after Siberia,
      I=B4m going to Irkustk in the end of June, and you can bet, it=B4s =
much easier to make deals in
      Sevilla than in Irkutsk...;-

      Nancys mail as follows;

>Pekka=20

>I just sent Tom and Mike each a msg telling tehm we "rock" buyers =
appreciate knowing the weight with packaging so we can figure postage =
into our bidding. I also told >them not to be so anal. Which if I could =
translate that into Norwegian, which is about the only other language =
than English that I know a little bit of, I would! Some of the >folks on =
this list are downright obsessive compulsive!=20

>But it is good to know there are others, like yourself, who can =
see the reasoning for Carlos descriptions. And it is not fraud nor =
samming when he says it in the descriptions. >I think they need to learn =
to deal with it!=20

>Thanks. I don't know how to post to the list or I may have done =
so !=20

>Nancy Strand=20
>Petersburg, Alaska =20

      take care,

      pekka

      Steven Drummond wrote:

        Hi Pekka And List , Your statement............ This far =
as I know, the buyers, which have contacted Carlos, are all promised to =
get the
        missing part of their stuff, let=B4s hope, these are weighted =
without the packing-material...;-
          And now Carlos reply when I asked for the missing weight. I =
have sent 1 further email asking for the total missing weight NOT =
INCLUDING PACKING MATERIAL AND BOX... He owes my 85 grams =
still..............
                        =20
        Hello =20
         =20
        We thank your collaboration. =20
         =20
        We can send you another meteorite that weighed, with the =
included packing, about 62 grams. =20
        I believe that this it is the best solution, since us in our it =
paginates of ebay we explain that of the weight of the specimens =
clearly.
            =20
           So as you can see he hasn't promised the missing weight to =
me, as a matter of fact he states that he will send a 62 grams Including =
packing material and box.=20
              =20
            I have no reply to my last email requesting the total =
missing weight.=20
         Regards, Steven Drummond TUC :-) =20
                    =20



-- Pekka SavolainenJokiharjuntie 4FIN-71330 RasalaFINLAND+ 358 400 818 =
912Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoinGroup =
Email Address: eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com




--=20




Pekka Savolainen
Jokiharjuntie 4
FIN-71330 Rasala
FINLAND

+ 358 400 818 912

Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin
Group Email Address: eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello Pekka, Thanks for your offer, but You should =
send it to=20
Steve Drummond, not me. I have no problem with you, You are trying to =
help.=20
Nancy calling mike and I anal for our views upset me. The PF example is =
where it=20
could go if this practice does not stop. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks, Tom<BR>The proudest member of the IMCA=20
6168</FONT></DIV>
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  <A href=3D"mailto:pekka.savolainen_at_dlc.fi" =
title=3Dpekka.savolainen_at_dlc.fi>Pekka=20
  Savolainen</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:knudson911_at_frontiernet.net" =
title=3Dknudson911_at_frontiernet.net>Tom=20
  aka James Knudson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite list</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 25, 2003 1:16 =
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
weight=20
  descrepency</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Hello, Tom and the list,<BR><BR>no one have said =
this is=20
  right and I=B4m trying to work to get this<BR>case corrected. Anyway, =
&nbsp;if=20
  you=B4ll send to me your adress, I=B4ll<BR>send to you a 69 grams =
NWA...weight=20
  without packing material.<BR><BR>This is a one-time offer, no other =
customers,=20
  please...;-<BR><BR>take care,<BR><BR>pekka<BR><BR>Tom aka James =
Knudson=20
  wrote:<BR>
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello Pekka and Nancy, If you are on ebay and =
see a 10g PF=20
    and are willing to pay top price of about $40 a gram, that is =
$400!!! If you=20
    get the PF and it weighs 1 gram you just paid $360 for a =
box!!!&nbsp;That is=20
    not right!!!!! Nancy, if you are so ANAL to think that's ok, I will =
sell you=20
    all the box's you want!! </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks, Tom<BR>The proudest member of the IMCA=20
    6168</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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      href=3D"mailto:pekka.savolainen_at_dlc.fi" =
title=3Dpekka.savolainen_at_dlc.fi> Pekka=20
      Savolainen</A> </DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: =
none"><B>To:</B><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:jesserd44_at_earthlink.net" =
title=3Djesserd44_at_earthlink.net>=20
      Steven Drummond</A> </DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: =
none"><B>Cc:</B><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20
      title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> meteorite list</A> =
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      <DIV=20
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none"><B>Sent:</B>=20
      Sunday, May 25, 2003 12:56 PM</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: =
none"><B>Subject:</B>=20
      Re: [meteorite-list] weight descrepency</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Hello, Steve and the list,<BR><BR>I have sent =
an e-mail=20
      to Carlos, but haven=B4t recived the reply yet. I tried to make=20
      clear,<BR>the meteorites is a different thing than minerals, and =
he has to=20
      give exact weight of them<BR>in the description, WITHOUT the =
packing=20
      material.<BR><BR>Got an e-mail from Nancy Starnd from Alaska, and =
perhaps=20
      this also tells, in minerals is <BR>important to know the total =
weight of=20
      the parcell to figure the shipping. It makes no sence<BR>to bid =
for&nbsp;=20
      piece some USD 2.00 and then pay USD 20.00 for the shipping. But=20
      this<BR>is in minerals, not in meteorites.<BR><BR>I=B4ll inform =
you=20
      immediatly, when recive the reply from Carlos. I suppose, I=B4m =
going to=20
      Spain<BR>and Morocco this summer, so if this doesn=B4t work, I can =
show him,=20
      how to weight a meteo-<BR>rite and how to descripe the weight =
correctly in=20
      listnings. All this if I=B4m still alive after Siberia,<BR>I=B4m =
going to=20
      Irkustk in the end of June, and you can bet, it=B4s much easier to =
make=20
      deals in<BR>Sevilla than in Irkutsk...;-<BR><BR>Nancys mail as=20
      follows;<BR><BR>&gt;Pekka <BR><BR>&gt;I just sent Tom and Mike =
each a msg=20
      telling tehm we "rock" buyers appreciate knowing the weight with =
packaging=20
      so we can figure postage into our bidding. I also told &gt;them =
not to be=20
      so anal. Which if I could translate that into Norwegian, which is =
about=20
      the only other language than English that I know a little bit of, =
I would!=20
      Some of the &gt;folks on this list are downright obsessive =
compulsive!=20
      <BR><BR>&gt;But it is good to know there are others, like =
yourself, who=20
      can see the reasoning for Carlos descriptions. And it is not fraud =
nor=20
      samming when he says it in the descriptions. &gt;I think they need =
to=20
      learn to deal with it! <BR><BR>&gt;Thanks. I don't know how to =
post to the=20
      list or I may have done so ! <BR><BR>&gt;Nancy Strand =
<BR>&gt;Petersburg,=20
      Alaska &nbsp;<BR><BR>take care,<BR><BR>pekka<BR><BR>Steven =
Drummond=20
      wrote:<BR>
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        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Pekka And List ,=20
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        statement............<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> =
This far as I=20
        know, the buyers, which have contacted Carlos, are all promised =
to get=20
        the<BR>missing part of their stuff, let=B4s hope, these are =
weighted=20
        without the packing-material...;-</FONT><BR>&nbsp; And now =
Carlos reply=20
        when I asked for the missing weight. I have sent 1 further email =
asking=20
        for the total missing weight NOT INCLUDING PACKING MATERIAL AND=20
        BOX...&nbsp; He owes my 85 grams =
still..............</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; <BR>We =
thank your=20
        collaboration.&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; <BR>We can send you another =
meteorite=20
        that weighed, with the included packing, about&nbsp;62=20
        &nbsp;grams.&nbsp; <BR>I believe that this it is the best =
solution,=20
        since us in our it paginates of ebay we explain that of the =
weight of=20
        the specimens clearly.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp; So as you can see he hasn't promised the =
missing=20
        weight to me, as a matter of fact he states that he will send a =
62 grams=20
        <STRONG>Including</STRONG> packing material and box. </DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have no reply to my last email =
requesting the=20
        total missing weight. </DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;Regards, Steven Drummond&nbsp;&nbsp; TUC&nbsp; =
:-)&nbsp;=20
        </DIV></FONT></DIV>
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Jokiharjuntie 4
FIN-71330 Rasala
FINLAND

+ 358 400 818 912

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