[meteorite-list] Re: Barringer Meteor $$$$

From: RONALD <RONALD_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:43 2004
Message-ID: <008801c3219c$5c642e70$aaa0bb3f_at_gqeavzninmfwv4i>

I have been lurking for some time. I am Ron Reil, and a meteor hunter and
somewhat of a collector. I doubt there isn't anyone on this list who doesn't
know more about meteorites than me, but I am working on that. :-)

I just wanted to correct the comment below by Steve about the environmental
group outbidding the cattle ranch interests. It is not the first time this
has happened. In fact it has been going on for quite some time here in
Idaho. This move started quite some time back, went in court because the BLM
tossed out the environmentalists winning bid, but they ended up winning when
the court found in their favor. The precedent was set here in Idaho, and
tested here in court. I think that Steve is correct about one thing, there
will be more and more of this in the future.

Yours,

Ron Reil


               Golden Age Forge
    http://www.reil1.net/gallery.shtml
             E-Mail: ron_at_reil1.net
                  Boise, Idaho



----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Schoner" <steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com>
To: "Bob Martino" <martino.6_at_osu.edu>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Barringer Meteor $$$$


> Now,
>
> Here is something that is very interesting...
>
> Grazing rights are issued by the AZ BLM to Bar-T-Bar
> aka Meteor Crater Enterprises for their cattle
> ranching.
>
> These historically have been bid at very, very low
> rates.
>
> Well, I just saw this in the local paper:
>
> http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_includes/story.cfm?storyID=66489
>
> What this environmental group is doing is outbidding
> the cattle ranchers for a potential of 8 million acres
> of land now having been abused for over 100 years by
> over grazing.
>
> This case is a first, and most likely will result in
> many such actions.
>
> Now, the huge high desert verandas of the Coconino
> Plateau need to come to their attention. This place
> is the home to multitudes of Elk and Antelope heards
> as well as lesser animals, often put out by cattle
> ranching.
>
> Now... wouldn't that be great if the ranches that
> abuse the claims to mineral rights on AZBLM trust
> lands around Meteor Crater, and these lands are used
> to generate funds for AZ Schools, were outbid by
> environmental agnencies that had a better handle with
> regards to proper land use and permits?
>
> The State lands around Meteor Crater are AZBLM School
> trust lands, and to secure them for true environmental
> reserves... if at all possible would be indeed a real
> achievement.
>
> Then us serious meteorite collectors can then ask the
> new owners of grazing rights for permits.
>
> And who knows...
>
> We might just get some respect, and Arizona State some
> money for their schools.
>
> Steve Schoner
> http://www.geocities.com/meteorite_identification
>
>
>
> --- Bob Martino <martino.6_at_osu.edu> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > Apparently I was mistaken in my belief that Dr.
> > Nininger was collecting
> > meteorites without permission. Thank you to those
> > who pointed out my error.
> > Now I feel better, actually, since my mistaken
> > belief that the good Doctor
> > was a poacher marred my otherwise positive thoughts
> > about him.
> >
> > Still, I stand by my other statements. Sure, Meteor
> > Crater would make a KICK
> > ASS National Monument, if it were given the
> > necessary resources. But since
> > the NPS doesn't have the resources but MCE does, I
> > say leave well enough
> > alone for now. And I think you do have to give MCE
> > some credit. It may be a
> > "tourist trap," but it's the classiest one I've ever
> > seen.
> >
> > Nevertheless, I for one would LOVE to come along on
> > a "Rabbit Hunt" out that
> > way sometime. Anyone feel like organizing?
> >
> > "Shhhhhhh... Be vewy, vewr qwiet... I'm hunting
> > 'wabbits'!
> > hehehehehehehehehe!"
> > "Wabbit Season!"
> > "Meteowite Season!"
> > "Wabbit Season!"
> > "Meteowite Season!"
> > "Wabbit Season!"
> > "Meteowite Season!"
> >
> > -----
> > Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ
> >
> > Can you really name a star? Read the Truth!
> > http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
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