[meteorite-list] Item #2175659927

From: Steve Schoner <steve_schoner_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:43 2004
Message-ID: <20030523151909.81569.qmail_at_web12704.mail.yahoo.com>

I think, however this turns out, that from this point
forward all COA's issued by members of IMCA should
have clear statements that they apply only to the
specimens submitted with agreed upon forms of
presentation.

These forms should include as I previously stated, a
clear picture of the specimen, with a measuring scale
and a physical description of the specimen in the same
certificate. I think that this could be done by the
agency manking the ID either digtally or with a hard
photo. A hard copy of the COA would then be sent to
the finder and another kept by the agency with the
submitted specimen.

This is a subject that IMCA members should open for
discussion, hopefully arriving at a standard that will
be adapted by us all.

Currently, it is my policy to keep all submitted
specimens, as these are in all cases fragments of
something larger. On meteorite suspects I will not
accept registered packages that are insured. Once I
had a guy from Arkansas send me unsolicited his "Jenny
Lee" meteorwrong, a egg sized piece of pyrite insured
for $25,000. I had to send that back also insured for
the same, hoping that he would not say that the
speicmen I had returned was not the one that he sent.

So, with this in mind, I changed my policy regarding
meteorite suspects. Nothing will be accepted that are
insured, or registered, and specimens will not be
returned, unless agreed upon after a positive
determination is arrived at.

Specimens that are not meteorites are discarded after
six or more months. And if the specimen is one of
those very, very rare meteorites out of the thousands
of meteorwrongs that I receive, and if the finder
decides that they want to sell the remaining piece
without further testing by the Meteoritical Society,
which I strongly recommend, that is their prerogative.
 But, at least I have the original test piece in my
files with my COA to back up my initial claim...
should any questions arise.

This scenario, however has not happened, yet, and I
think with my suggestion regarding COA's we will be
better protected.

Steve Schoner/AMS
 

--- magellon <magellon_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
> raylunar wrote:
>
> I here you ken, I will end up stoping it, just want
> to make sure all
> those that have been
> talking and emailing me have a chance to see whats
> up. I can wait to
> the last day to
> stop it the way I understand the process. Be
> assured I will end the
> auction within the
> next day are so. All the pieces are on there way to
> NEMS this am.
> thanks
> Dan
>
> magellon wrote:
>
> Dan,
> I hope you don't regret not following my
> suggestion.
> It is your right and a protection to reject bids
> and close your
> auction.
> However, If you let an unreasonable person win,
> you are obligated to
> sell your item for the winning bid.
> Just trying to save you some potential problems.
> Best,
> ken
>
> raylunar wrote:
> >
> > I have contacted the fellow who bid, and he
> happens to be a old
> friend
> > in California who knows my reputation. I will
> contact anyone else
> who
> > places a bid, I mainly left it up for the na
> sayers. You are
> probably
> > right, I am just being a little hard headed at
> this point, so please
> > hang with me.
> > I put all the items in the mail back to NEMS
> this AM and sent some
> > mail back and fourth to Russ, and he was nice
> enough to look at them
> > for free for me to help clear the mater up.
> > Thanks Ken
> > Dan Ray
> >
>
>
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Received on Fri 23 May 2003 11:19:09 AM PDT