[meteorite-list] Main Mass Status
From: MARK BOSTICK <thebigcollector_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:34 2004 Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV124FOvapM2H00009370_at_hotmail.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C310D5.D1216110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Main Mass StatusHello Michael, Steve and List, Michael wrote: I concur that the largest intact stone (or iron) AT THE TIME OF=20 THE FALL is the main mass. However, if it gets cut up, you now have = pieces=20 of the main mass - and the largest is "the largest remaining piece of = the main mass." The next largest stone (or iron) of the fall becomes the=20 largest mass now intact, but will never be "the main mass." The largest specimen AT THE TIME OF THE FALL is and always will be "the main mass." I agree with that statement. While the main mass could be termed to = meant the meteorite before it broke up and landed, "main mass" we must = understand is a term used to define the largest piece. It seems to me, = and Nininger use to seem to think this way, that is if all the pieces = fit together and if it was larger, together then any other piece that = the "puzzle" as I and many other call them, would be the main mass. Michael went on to write: You can't go reassigning the statuses of specimens based on the=20 main mass being broken or sliced up. (note, if the largest stone of a fall breaks on impact and a whole stone exists that is larger than any of the surviving pieces, the intact stone is the main mass - if the = largest piece is larger than any other whole stone, IT is the main mass.=20 Remember, it is not a meteorite until it comes to rest on terra firma - = and=20 let's not get into landing on boats and the like!)=20 As referenced in the statement above, I think the puzzle together would = be the main mass over the largest known fragment. (The meteorite did = touch the ground before it broke, asit was the ground that broke = it.likely.) There are other meteorites, outside of Park Forest were this = would play into as well. Take the Gold Basin. The largest fragment is about 1600 grams if I = remember right. However, in Tucson (two years ago) a gold prospector = was trying to sell a 3000+ gram puzzle. I would consider this "puzzle" = the main mass and not the 1600g single fragment. =20 I think what this more shows us is that we need (or could use) better = wording: 1.. A name for the mass of the stone before it broke up or landed on = earth.=20 2.. A name for the largest (known) recovered single stone=20 3.. A name for a "puzzle" that together would be larger then the = largest known recovered single stone. For food for thought here is link to some Gold Basin puzzles I have in = my collection.. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/goldbasinpuzzle.html My 3 cents (Friday should count as overtime) Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C310D5.D1216110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>=A0Main Mass Status</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type = content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY id=3DMailContainerBody=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; = BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; = BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; TEXT-DECORATION: = none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none"=20 leftMargin=3D0 topMargin=3D0 acc_role=3D"text" CanvasTabStop=3D"true"=20 name=3D"Compose message area"><?xml:namespace prefix=3D"v" = /><?xml:namespace prefix=3D"o" /> <DIV>Hello Michael, Steve and List,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Michael wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I concur that the largest intact stone (or iron) AT THE TIME OF = <BR>THE=20 FALL is the main mass. However, if it gets cut up, you now have pieces = <BR>of=20 the main mass - and the largest is "the largest remaining piece of = the<BR>main=20 mass." The next largest stone (or iron) of the fall becomes the = <BR>largest mass=20 now intact, but will never be "the main mass." The largest<BR>specimen = AT THE=20 TIME OF THE FALL is and always will be "the main mass."<BR></DIV> <DIV>I agree with that statement. While the main mass could be = termed to=20 meant the meteorite before it broke up and landed, "main mass" we must=20 understand is a term used to define the largest piece. It seems to = me, and=20 Nininger use to seem to think this way, that is if all the pieces fit = together=20 and if it was larger, together then any other piece that the "puzzle" as = I and=20 many other call them, would be the main mass.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Michael went on to write:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can't go reassigning the statuses of specimens based on the = <BR>main=20 mass being broken or sliced up. (note, if the largest stone of a<BR>fall = breaks=20 on impact and a whole stone exists that is larger than any<BR>of the = surviving=20 pieces, the intact stone is the main mass - if the largest<BR>piece is = larger=20 than any other whole stone, IT is the main mass. <BR>Remember, it is not = a=20 meteorite until it comes to rest on terra firma - and <BR>let's not get = into=20 landing on boats and the like!) <BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As referenced in the statement above, I think the puzzle together = would be=20 the main mass over the largest known fragment. (The meteorite did touch = the=20 ground before it broke, asit was the ground that broke it=85likely.) = There are=20 other meteorites, outside of Park Forest were this would play into as=20 well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Take the Gold Basin. The largest fragment is about 1600 grams = if I=20 remember right. However, in Tucson (two years ago) a gold = prospector was=20 trying to sell a 3000+ gram puzzle. I would consider this "puzzle" the = main mass=20 and not the 1600g single fragment. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think what this more shows us is that we need (or could use) = better=20 wording:</DIV> <OL> <LI>A name for the mass of the stone before it broke up or landed = on=20 earth.=20 <LI>A name for the largest (known) recovered single stone=20 <LI>A name for a "puzzle" that together would be larger then = the=20 largest known recovered single stone.</LI></OL> <DIV>For food for thought here is link to some Gold Basin puzzles I = have in=20 my collection..</DIV> <DIV><A=20 href=3D"http://www.meteoritearticles.com/goldbasinpuzzle.html">http://www= .meteoritearticles.com/goldbasinpuzzle.html</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My 3 cents (Friday should count as overtime)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mark Bostick</DIV> <DIV><A=20 href=3D"http://www.MeteoriteArticles.com">www.MeteoriteArticles.com</A></= DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C310D5.D1216110-- Received on Fri 02 May 2003 07:08:21 PM PDT |
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