Fw: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

From: rockhoundm <rockhoundm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:22:38 2004
Message-ID: <008d01c3320a$02e91f80$1501a8c0_at_ed>

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockhoundm" <rockhoundm_at_abaconet.com.ar>
To: "Jeff Grossman" <jgrossman_at_usgs.gov>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites


> Hi Michael, Jeff and all
>
> Since I read the first e-mail I've been searching and there is NO "Pitino"
> locality or place in Santiago del Estero province, neither in any other
part
> of Argentina. So I agree that the name of this meteorite should be Campo
del
> Cielo II (or Campo del Cielo b)
>
> About the legality for sale there should be no problem and here is why:
> The Campo del Cielo strewn field is about 95% in Chaco province and 5% in
> Santiago del Estero. According to Michael's description, this specimen was
> found in Santiago del Estero province.
> Campo del Cielo meteorites are forbidden for sale ONLY if they are found
in
> Chaco as there is a Provincial (not national) law that protect Chaco's
> meteorites.
>
> So Micheal go ahead and sale it but I'm pretty sure that you will have to
> change the name in the future.
>
> Eduardo
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Grossman" <jgrossman_at_usgs.gov>
> To: "Michael Farmer" <farmerm_at_concentric.net>;
> <meteorite-list_at_lists.meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
>
>
> Mike,
>
> The Meteoritical Society is not an authority on geographic names. The
> NomCom does the best it can in approving names for meteorites based on
> geographic names, but mistakes do get made. We often have to rely on
> people with local knowledge of the find area (or the submitter of the
> meteorite to us), and they are not always fully reliable sources.
>
> Our job is to provide a label for each meteorite. We have done that.
Now,
> the name of the meteorite is authoritative. Whether Pitino is a proper
> place-name remains open for discussion.
>
> Jeff
>
> At 02:48 PM 6/13/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >Wow, judge, juror, head of the Meteoritical Society, and God?
> >Who died and made you the head honcho? This is my meteorite, it was
legally
> >aquired in the United States. Chaco or yourself have no claim to it.
> >O te puedo escribir en espanol si prefieres?
> >The meteorite is named Pitino, there is a place called Pitino, or the
> >Meteoritical Society would not have named it that. You seem to be the
same
> >guy who harrased me two years ago about Campos. There are thousands of
> >kilograms of them, so go dig them up or shut up.
> >Mike Farmer
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Miguel Angel del Buono" <migueldelbuono_at_hotmail.com>
> >To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > In agreement with the expressed by Mr. Michael Farmer, in a lot of
> > > meteorites from Campo del Cielo he found a new chondrite named Pitino.
> On
> > > this matter I have two observations:
> > > 1) There is no city or geographic reference with that name in
Argentina.
> >In
> > > that case the proposed name for the meteorite will be Campo del Cielo
> II.
> > > 2) As the meteorite is from Campo del Cielo, the proprietary is the
> > > Goverment of Argentina. So is forbidden any people has a fragment of
it.
> > >
> > > I also remember a meteorite of 6 to 8 tons was stolen from Campo del
> >Cielo.
> > > You can see the picture in this page
> > > http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm
> > > Please for any information on this meteorite call to:
> > >
> > > Dr, Carlos Clauter, Judge of the cause
> > > Las Heras 45
> > > (3720) Charata, Chaco, Argentina
> > > Telefax ++543731 420004
> > >
> > > Diario Norte
> > > prensanorte_at_diarionorte.com (Director)
> > > Pellegrini 144
> > > (3500) Resistencia, Chaco, Argentina
> > >
> > > Policía del Chaco
> > > ++ 543722 463103 (Jefatura)
> > > ++ 543722 434127
> > > policia.jefe_at_ecomchaco.com.ar
> > > pchdcinf_at_infovia.com.ar
> > > pol.judicial_at_ecomchaco.com.ar (Dept. Judicial)
> > >
> > > Ministro de Gobierno
> > > Sr. Roy Nikisch
> > > roy.nikisch_at_ecomchaco.com.ar
> > >
> > > Ministerio de Gobierno y Justicia
> > > Ministerio.gobierno_at_ecomchaco.com.ar
> > >
> > > Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores
> > > ++5411 48197000
> > > web_at_mrecic.gob.ar
> > >
> > > Thank you for your cooperation.
> > >
> > > Dr. Miguel A. del Buono
> > > Universidad Nacional del Nordeste
> > > Resistencia - Chaco - Argentina
> > >
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> US Geological Survey
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