[meteorite-list] VCI's

From: mark ford <markf_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:20:57 2004
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Stephen,
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I have used paper VCI emmiters in my cabinet for over 3 years, they
are made my '3M' and are flat black paper rectangles that you can hide
at the back. I have had no problems with them. The coating they emit is
literally only atomic thickness so there isn't much of anything to cause
a problem. To be honest I would worry more about the safety of Nickel
than the safety of the VCI !
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 .... I have seen these used they are very good too
http://www.texastechnologies.com/vciemitter.html
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Regards,
Mark Ford
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen McMann [mailto:stephen_mcmann_at_hotmail.com]=20
Sent: 01 July 2003 23:22
To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] VCI's
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Hello List,
I have a few questions about volatile corrosion inhibitors (VCIs). As a
relative newcomer to meteorite collecting I apologize for any niavete.
Those people who are tired of rust threads should probably skip this
messege now. However, if anybody who has used VCIs wants to field these
questions, I would be grateful.
I've gathered a few bits and pieces about VCI from the archives and
recent discussions about rusting irons. However, I'm not sure that I
have a clear picture about when they are good to use.=20
Firstly, Has anyone experienced unwanted reactions with any of the
following materials
A. The various minerals that are abundant in meteorites that are not
irons
B. plastics such as those found in display/storage containers
C. Other coatings (In my case I have wiped a bunch of Sikhotes with a
silicone gun cloth)
D. dessicants
E. human health
Secondly, can they be used in very small containers such as plastic
cubes that are as small as about 10X10X10 cm?
Finally, does anybody have recommendations about specific product names
and suppliers?
Thank you for your time
Stephen McMann
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have <span class=3DGramE>used =
<span
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class=3DSpellE>emmiters</span>
<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>in my cabinet for over 3 =
years, <span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>they are made my =
&#8216;3M&#8217; and are
flat black paper rectangles that you can hide at the back. I have had no
problems with them. The coating they emit is literally only atomic =
thickness so
there isn&#8217;t much of anything to cause a problem.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>To be honest I would worry more =
about
the safety of Nickel than the safety of the <span class=3DGramE>VCI =
!</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>&#8230;.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>I have seen these used they are =
very
good too <a =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Stephen McMann
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<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hello List,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I have a few questions about&nbsp;volatile =
corrosion
inhibitors (VCIs). As a relative newcomer to meteorite collecting I =
apologize
for any niavete.&nbsp;Those people who are tired of rust threads should
probably skip this messege now.&nbsp; However, if anybody who has used =
VCIs
wants to field these questions, I would be =
grateful.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I've gathered a few bits and pieces about VCI =
from the
archives and recent discussions about rusting irons.&nbsp; However, I'm =
not
sure that I have a clear picture about when they are good to use. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Firstly,&nbsp;Has anyone experienced unwanted
reactions&nbsp;with any of the following =
materials<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>A. The various minerals that are abundant in
meteorites that are not irons<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>B. plastics such as those found in =
display/storage
containers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>C. Other coatings (In my case I have wiped a =
bunch of
Sikhotes with a silicone gun cloth)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>D. dessicants<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>E. human health<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Secondly, can they be used in very small =
containers
such as plastic cubes that are as small as about 10X10X10 =
cm?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Finally, does anybody =
have&nbsp;recommendations about
specific product names and suppliers?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Thank you for your =
time<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Stephen McMann<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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