[meteorite-list] First report of a New Fall!

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <mcomemeteorite2000_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:18:30 2004
Message-ID: <20030224194812.4615.qmail_at_web10304.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Adam - I give the you to all -

Well, if possible I want buy a 10 gr. piece with a
fresh crust for my collection. Regarding the crust of
the NWA H chondrites, in collection I have many of
this with a nice black fusion crust paired Bensour or
other african falls but is founds not fall's. A crust
is fresh in many other old fall's - see Pultusk, or
Siena, or Albareto, ( this last 2 see with my eyes )
and many others.. - and from what I see in your photo
this is not visible, is a crust similar to many
ordinary NWA, if the fall is south Africa. But now I
waith the information if you have a 10 gr. piece with
nice crust.
Regards

Matteo

--- Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_attbi.com> wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> In response to a couple of emails and postings I
> will address a few
> questions.
>
> First of all the question was brought up about the
> freshness of the new fall
> and if it might be made up or be from Northwest
> Africa. I need to make a
> correction the name Thuathe has not been voted on
> yet by the Nomenclature
> Committee but has been submitted, therefor the name
> is provisional.
>
> Most specimens are very fresh looking with a few
> that were stained from
> being exposed to the moist ground. Unlike Northwest
> Africa, Thuathe fell
> high on a plateau where it actually snows so this
> witnessed fall was
> introduced to different elements. The crusts on H
> type chondrites are
> generally not as shiny as LL crusts. Thuathe was
> observed by thousands of
> witnesses and was documented by a nearby university.
> The strewn field is
> well documented and was plotted by the same
> university. We will include six
> pages of documents in support of this new fall with
> any sample purchased.
> The coordinates are clearly addressed in this
> document if anybody has the
> desire to go there themselves and confirm this fall
> really exists. Other
> competitive teams are there now confirming the
> reality of this new fall.
> For the person who questioned the authenticity of
> this find the following
> statement might apply:
>
> If you are not willing to live on the edge and go
> check out this new find
> yourself you are taking up too much real-estate.
>
> Somebody asked the status of Bensour. The official
> documents were finally
> sent to the Nom Com group for vote about a month
> ago. A year is not an
> unreasonable amount of time when it is taking two
> years for many just to get
> classifications. The delays were caused by O-isotope
> testing, fall date
> issues and witness statements. Remember, at first
> the Nom Com questioned
> the Bensour fall too which was the wise thing to do.
>
> All the best,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites"
> <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] First report of a New
> Fall!
>
>
> > Hello all
> >
> > I have see the photo and is many strange this
> pieces
> > not have a fresh crust - type Bensour or Hadeja -
> if
> > is fall few months ago, is many similar to normaly
> NWA
> > finds in desert. When exit the report of the
> > Met.Society? Is available a isotope text? Sorry
> for my
> > suspect but in this months the moroccan persons
> and
> > similar in the zone they are wanting to they sell
> some
> > meteorites like falls of recent. However I have
> asked
> > a piece of 10 gr. to observe better.
> > Regards
> >
> > Matteo
> >
> > --- Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_attbi.com> wrote:
> > > Dear List Members,
> > >
> > > We Would like to introduce a new fall.
> > >
> > > New meteorite Thuathe, Lesotho fell on July 21,
> 2002
> > >
> > >
> > > Incredibly this meteorite fell on the same day
> as
> > > Kilabo. About 27 kilograms is projected to be
> the
> > > Total Known Weight with about 19 kilograms
> recovered
> > > so far. Stones varying in size from 2 grams up
> to
> > > the main mass weight of 2,387 grams have been
> > > recovered. It was reported to the Meteoritical
> > > Society and the official name of Thuathe has
> been
> > > assigned. It is an H4 ordinary chondrite with a
> not
> > > so ordinary story. We will report more eye
> witness
> > > accounts as they come in.
> > >
> > > Malineo Mantsoe of IIa Sofonia describes her
> > > experience: When the loud noise occurred
> overhead,
> > > she ran to the back of her dwelling expecting to
> see
> > > a thunderstorm, but there was none. She came to
> the
> > > front, just in time to hear wheeee-bang as a
> stone
> > > fell into her cooking area just in front of her,
> > > cracking one of her water carriers. No villager
> > > could have thrown a stone so fast in daylight,
> and
> > > it must have been a truly powerful thokolost to
> have
> > > done such a thing in broad daylight! Fortunately
> she
> > > was prepared for such occasions, because she had
> a
> > > supply of holy water blessed in church. She
> > > sprinkled it on the stone and elsewhere around
> her
> > > cooking area and house, and it worked! No more
> > > stones fell.
> > >
> > > In other villages the locals were disgusted that
> > > black stones were falling out of the sky because
> one
> > > almost hit somebody in Ha Motloang. They picked
> up
> > > the stones and threw them as far away as they
> could
> > > to get them out of their villages. Once they
> > > overcame their superstitions regarding this
> > > meteorite and realized they were worth
> something,
> > > hundreds began to search for them.
> > >
> > > What you see here is the first batch to reach
> the
> > > civilized world. We are expecting the bulk of
> the
> > > fall, another 12 kilograms to reach us this
> week.
> > > The well-defined strewn field has been scoured
> for
> > > months now so we expect only another 2 to 4
> > > kilograms will show up after this. After one of
> our
> > > partners, thinking that all the material had
> been
> > > recovered (not possible) spoke about this fall
> in
> > > Tucson the word was out. Now a three-person team
> > > arrived yesterday from Tucson and is asking
> about
> > > the stones. Now there is a race on to see who
> can
> > > recover the most of this new fall. Good luck to
> the
> > > other teams and may we all win!
> > >
> > > The samples pictured below are priced as
> follows:
> > >
> > > 10-50 grams $7.50 per gram
> > >
> > > 51-200 grams $7.00 per gram
> > >
> > > 201-500 grams $6.50 per gram
> > >
> > > over 500 grams $6.00 per gram
> > >
> > > Her is a link to available specimens:
> > >
> > > http://www.lunarrock.com/thuathe/thuathe.jpg
> > >
>
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Received on Mon 24 Feb 2003 02:48:12 PM PST