[meteorite-list] Nininger Moment (Nininger questions)
From: Dan Wray <dwray_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:17:48 2004 Message-ID: <001e01c3c324$35629d00$f92b680a_at_gold.dnv.wideopenwest.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3C2E9.88D16A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Doug, Kevin and all, Allende fell February 8,1969 and Nininger's book "Find a Falling Star" = was published in 1972. I find no reference to Allende in the index. = The book may have been finished by the time of the fall or at a stage = with the publisher that precluded any changes. Dan Wray COMETS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kevin Fly Hill=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nininger Moment (Nininger questions) "What were Nininger's comments on "Allende"...I am surprised it didn't = make his book?" Doug, I don't have my copy of "Catch a Falling Star" with me (it's on my = nightstand at the house), but I am almost sure that it was published = before Allende happened. I sure other's can give exact dates' Fly Hill ----- Original Message -----=20 From: MexicoDoug_at_aol.com=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Nininger Moment (Nininger questions) Last night I visited a friend who had ... to my surprise ... found = an original of the FIND A FALLING STAR book on his shelf. He gladly = lent it to me on request, and last night rather than sleeping much I had = a Nininger Moment. Has anyone ever recovered meteorites from the November 9, 1923 fall = ? Where is the "crowbar" from the blacksmith from the Toluca fall = presently? What is a ballpark worth of the collection he described as US = $530,000 today? What happened to the American Meteorite Laboratory and its = equipment? How many of "recognized" recoveries in the 20th century (1901-2000, = or 1900-1999, take your pick) were credited to Nininger? An estimate is = OK if the tally of the total isn't yet known! Where can we see, online, cowboy Charlie Brown's famous fireball = photo? Is the semantics of the word meteorite worked out yet? Is a rock in = space a meteorite (Nininger calls it that, and makes no use of the term = meteoroid)? Inspired: Do all oriented meteorites tend to a predictable "nose cone" shape? = What is known about the resulting ablated shapes (hemisphere, = hemi-ellipse, sum of them, other)? Are individual chondrules thought to be still floating around in = space, and/or a significant part of the "dust" meteors observed outside = of meteor showers (to remove the cometary particles)? What were Nininger's comments on "Allende"...I am surprised it = didn't make his book? Is an Aerolite not an OK term in English for an iron? In French? Theoretically, how big of a piece of ice (perfect sphere) would be = needed at a common entry velocity and angle and average atmospheric = temp., hypothetically, if it didn't fracture, to not melt/vaporize and = touch ground. For a rough idea... Related for fun: Should a meteorite impacting a satellite and subsequently recovered = be called a meteorite? How about if it is an intentional probe = (Stardust mission)? Are materials from the falls on Mars correctly = called meteorites, or must they be Martian meteorites, Lunar, etc. Saludos Doug Dawn Mexico=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3C2E9.88D16A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Doug, Kevin and all,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Allende fell February 8,1969 and = Nininger's=20 book "Find a Falling Star" was published in 1972. I find no = reference to=20 Allende in the index. The book may have been finished by the time = of the=20 fall or at a stage with the publisher that precluded any = changes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dan Wray</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COMETS</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dkhill_at_cpsmedical.com = href=3D"mailto:khill_at_cpsmedical.com">Kevin Fly=20 Hill</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 15, 2003 = 8:33=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Nininger=20 Moment (Nininger questions)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"What were Nininger's comments on = "Allende"...I=20 am surprised it didn't make his book?"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Doug,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I don't have my = copy of "Catch=20 a Falling Star" with me (it's on my nightstand at the house), but I am = almost=20 sure that it was published before Allende happened. I sure = other's can=20 give exact dates'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fly Hill</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3DMexicoDoug_at_aol.com=20 href=3D"mailto:MexicoDoug_at_aol.com">MexicoDoug@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 14, = 2003 2:15=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] = Nininger=20 Moment (Nininger questions)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Last night I visited a friend who had ... to my = surprise=20 ... found an original of the FIND A FALLING STAR book on his = shelf. He=20 gladly lent it to me on request, and last night rather than sleeping = much I=20 had a Nininger Moment.<BR><BR>Has anyone ever recovered meteorites = from the=20 November 9, 1923 fall ?<BR><BR>Where is the "crowbar" from the = blacksmith=20 from the Toluca fall presently?<BR><BR>What is a ballpark worth of = the=20 collection he described as US $530,000 today?<BR><BR>What happened = to the=20 American Meteorite Laboratory and its equipment?<BR><BR>How many of=20 "recognized" recoveries in the 20th century (1901-2000, or = 1900-1999, take=20 your pick) were credited to Nininger? An estimate is OK if the = tally=20 of the total isn't yet known!<BR><BR>Where can we see, online, = cowboy=20 Charlie Brown's famous fireball photo?<BR><BR>Is the semantics of = the word=20 meteorite worked out yet? Is a rock in space a meteorite = (Nininger=20 calls it that, and makes no use of the term=20 meteoroid)?<BR><BR>Inspired:<BR><BR>Do all oriented meteorites tend = to a=20 predictable "nose cone" shape? What is known about the = resulting=20 ablated shapes (hemisphere, hemi-ellipse, sum of them, = other)?<BR>Are=20 individual chondrules thought to be still floating around in space, = and/or a=20 significant part of the "dust" meteors observed outside of meteor = showers=20 (to remove the cometary particles)?<BR><BR>What were Nininger's = comments on=20 "Allende"...I am surprised it didn't make his book?<BR><BR>Is an = Aerolite=20 not an OK term in English for an iron? In=20 French?<BR><BR>Theoretically, how big of a piece of ice (perfect = sphere)=20 would be needed at a common entry velocity and angle and average = atmospheric=20 temp., hypothetically, if it didn't fracture, to not melt/vaporize = and touch=20 ground. For a rough idea...<BR><BR>Related for = fun:<BR>Should a=20 meteorite impacting a satellite and subsequently recovered be called = a=20 meteorite? How about if it is an intentional probe (Stardust=20 mission)? Are materials from the falls on Mars correctly = called=20 meteorites, or must they be Martian meteorites, Lunar,=20 etc.<BR><BR>Saludos<BR>Doug Dawn<BR>Mexico</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3C2E9.88D16A60-- Received on Mon 15 Dec 2003 10:57:57 AM PST |
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