[meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group

From: Jim <Jim_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:17:47 2004
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Thomas......

You are right, of course. As this tread progressed, the word Ad was =
used and I did not bother to verify the exact wording of the list policy =
but was only referring to previous email. The spirit of the policy is =
that advertisements are permitted as long as the subject line clearly =
states so.

Best Wishes to all on this great day for Iraqis

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV 26038

Catch a Falling Star Meteorites
http://www.catchafallingstar.com

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Thomas Webb=20
  To: meteoriteshow=20
  Cc: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 12:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt =
for a new group


  Frederic, Randy and others,
  General List Policy # 9 states: If you are posting a URL for a Sale, =
include 'SALE' in the subject box. This was established by Art Jones. =
I don't see how discussion on the list can change or modify this to read =
AD, or the need for AD when SALE works just as well.
  My best,
  Thomas

  meteoriteshow <meteoriteshow_at_free.fr> wrote:
    Dear all,

    I did not know about the word "AD" to be added in the subject line =
and will do it from now on, when I indicate to the List that we have new =
items for sale on our web site.
    Sorry for my recent "AD", which wasn't indicated so.
    Kind regards.

    Frederic Beroud
    www.meteoriteshow.com
    IMCA #2491
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Randy Mils=20
      To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
      Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:46 PM
      Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's =
attempt for a new group


      Chirsian and all:

      The list policy is already clear. Policy#8 states - "Do not post =
- major advertisement- emails to the list - use a 'sale' link". This =
policy was later ammended on the list to require the word "AD" in the =
subject line so that list members would be clear that the email =
contained an ad.

      I think the problem arrose when some list members posted their =
ebay auctions daily, spamming the list. For example one member in =
particular would say........

      "I have ebay auctions ending in 7 days" then "I have ebay =
auctions ending in 6 days", then "I have ebay auctions ending in 5 =
days", etc etc. You get the idea.

      Members won't even quit fighting and using vulgar language on this =
list which is a much much bigger problem than the occasional ebay ad =
announcement.

      As long as the word "AD" appears in the subject, I do not see a =
problem as this allows all list members to decide for themselves if they =
wish to open an "AD" email.

      Randy



>From: "Ing. Christian ANGER"=20
>To:=20
>Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt =
for a new group=20
>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:33:17 +0100=20
>=20
>Hi list, Hi Steve !=20
>=20
>I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has =
died.=20
>=20
>Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are =
just only=20
>ONE=20
>example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have =
not=20
>accepted Steve's idea.=20
>=20
>So I don't know why I (or the others) should not make any =
announcements for=20
>my (or their)=20
>ebay auctions in future again.=20
>=20
>Nobody cared about except very few members like=20
>Mike Farmer, Dean Bessey, Matteo Chinellato, Phillipe Thomas, Me =
and two or=20
>three others,=20
>I THINK WE DID NOT REACH A NUMBER OF 10 OF MEMBERS who accepted =
this and now=20
>these members=20
>have a disadvantage as they did not post to the list since the =
ebay-group=20
>Steve created exists!!=20
>=20
>So I don't want to be one of these two who accepts the =
disadvantage of not=20
>posting=20
>ebay announcements to the REAL meteorite-list as long as others =
ignore not=20
>posting ebay announcements.=20
>=20
>We (all the members of this list) should find a solution. To =
decide if=20
>announcements for ebay auctions are possible for ALL or NOT.=20
>=20
>Maybe somebody has a solution for making a poll to let the =
members decide.=20
>=20
>Art Jones, a question to you as first man of the list :=20
>=20
>Is it possible to make a poll in this subject ?=20
>=20
>I saw on different yahoo-lists that there are polls possible but =
I am not=20
>aware how to make this here.=20
>=20
>Could you find a soultion ?=20
>=20
>I suggest a solution is asked, otherwise everybody makes what he =
wants.=20
>=20
>=20
>Cheers,=20
>=20
>Christian=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>IMCA #2673=20
>www.austromet.com=20
>=20
>Ing. Christian ANGER=20
>Korngasse 6=20
>2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg=20
>AUSTRIA=20
>=20
>email : christian.anger_at_aon.at=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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<DIV>Thomas......</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You are right, of course.&nbsp; As this tread progressed, the word =
Ad was=20
used and I did not bother to verify the exact wording of the list policy =
but was=20
only referring to previous email.&nbsp; The spirit of the policy is that =

advertisements are permitted as long as the subject line clearly states=20
so.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Best Wishes to all on this great day for Iraqis</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Jim Strope<BR>421 Fourth Street<BR>Glen Dale, WV&nbsp; 26038</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Catch a Falling Star Meteorites<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.catchafallingstar.com">http://www.catchafallingstar.co=
m</A><BR></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dwebbth1_at_yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:webbth1@yahoo.com">Thomas =
Webb</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmeteoriteshow_at_free.fr=20
  href=3D"mailto:meteoriteshow_at_free.fr">meteoriteshow</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 14, 2003 =
12:59=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
ebay=20
  listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Frederic, Randy and others,</DIV>
  <DIV>General List Policy # 9 states: If you are posting a URL for a =
Sale,=20
  include 'SALE' in the subject box.&nbsp; This was established by Art=20
  Jones.&nbsp; I don't see how discussion on the list can change or =
modify this=20
  to read AD, or the need for AD when SALE works just as well.</DIV>
  <DIV>My best,</DIV>
  <DIV>Thomas<BR><BR><B><I>meteoriteshow &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteoriteshow_at_free.fr">meteoriteshow@free.fr</A>&gt;</I></=
B>=20
  wrote:</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear all,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did not know about the word "AD" =
to be added=20
    in the subject line and will do it from now on, when I indicate to =
the List=20
    that we have new items for sale on our web site.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry for my recent "AD", which =
wasn't=20
    indicated so.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kind regards.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Frederic Beroud<BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.meteoriteshow.com/">www.meteoriteshow.com</A><BR>IMCA =

    #2491</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dacculabs_at_hotmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:acculabs_at_hotmail.com">Randy=20
      Mils</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 14, =
2003 1:46=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[meteorite-list] ebay=20
      listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV class=3DRTE>
      <P>Chirsian and all:</P>
      <P>The list policy is already clear.&nbsp; Policy#8 states - "Do =
not post=20
      - major advertisement- emails to the list - use a 'sale' =
link".&nbsp; This=20
      policy was later ammended on the list to require the word "AD" in =
the=20
      subject line so that list members would be clear that the email =
contained=20
      an ad.</P>
      <P>I think the problem arrose when some list members posted their =
ebay=20
      auctions daily, spamming the list.&nbsp; For example one member in =

      particular would say........</P>
      <P>"I have ebay auctions ending in 7 days"&nbsp; then "I have ebay =

      auctions ending in 6 days", then "I have ebay auctions ending in 5 =
days",=20
      etc etc.&nbsp; You get the idea.</P>
      <P><STRONG>Members won't even quit fighting and using vulgar =
language on=20
      this list which is a much much bigger problem than =
the&nbsp;occasional=20
      ebay ad announcement.</STRONG></P>
      <P>As long as the word "AD" appears in the subject, I do not see a =
problem=20
      as this allows all list members to decide for themselves if they =
wish to=20
      open an "AD" email.</P>
      <P>Randy<BR><BR></P></DIV>
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Ing. Christian ANGER" =
<CHRISTIAN.ANGER_at_AON.AT>
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM>
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve =
choner's=20
      attempt for a new group=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:33:17 +0100=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Hi list, Hi Steve !=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off =
this list=20
      has died.=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel =
but you=20
      are just only=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;ONE=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;example for what I want to say becuase you recently =
did it)=20
      have not=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;accepted Steve's idea.=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;So I don't know why I (or the others) should not =
make any=20
      announcements for=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;my (or their)=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;ebay auctions in future again.=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Nobody cared about except very few members like=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Mike Farmer, Dean Bessey, Matteo Chinellato, =
Phillipe=20
      Thomas, Me and two or=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;three others,=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;I THINK WE DID NOT REACH A NUMBER OF 10 OF MEMBERS =
who=20
      accepted this and now=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;these members=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;have a disadvantage as they did not post to the =
list since=20
      the ebay-group=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Steve created exists!!=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;So I don't want to be one of these two who accepts =
the=20
      disadvantage of not=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;posting=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;ebay announcements to the REAL meteorite-list as =
long as=20
      others ignore not=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;posting ebay announcements.=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;We (all the members of this list) should find a =
solution.=20
      To decide if=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;announcements for ebay auctions are possible for =
ALL or=20
      NOT.=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Maybe somebody has a solution for making a poll to =
let the=20
      members decide.=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Art Jones, a question to you as first man of the =
list :=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Is it possible to make a poll in this subject ?=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;I saw on different yahoo-lists that there are polls =

      possible but I am not=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;aware how to make this here.=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Could you find a soultion ?=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;I suggest a solution is asked, otherwise everybody =
makes=20
      what he wants.=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Cheers,=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Christian=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;IMCA #2673=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;www.austromet.com=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Ing. Christian ANGER=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;Korngasse 6=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;AUSTRIA=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;email : christian.anger_at_aon.at=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
      <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
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