[meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions.

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From: Michel Franco <michel_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:17:44 2004
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Michael, Jim, Matteo, list,

This is an interesting thread.=20

I think it should be developped. And I have questions for experts like =
you guys.=20
A: Does the presence of some flow lines is enough to say that a =
meteorite is oriented ?
B. Does a meteorite with conical shape ( approx similar to Bob Haag =
Venus cone ) but without any crust ( due to a long stay on earth surface =
before find) can be said oriented .
C: When thumbprints have a particular elliptical shape with a =
depressed side and a rim on the other side, is it a sign of =
orientation.?=20

Best regards

Michel FRANCO
Caillou Noir

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael Farmer=20
  To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:46 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions

  I would like to note that people need to learn a little about how to =
describe their meteorites. I have been perusing ebay, and I note so many =
flawed descriptions.=20
  People are either 1, trying to deceive, or 2, just clueless about what =
they have.=20

  For instance, Steve Arnold list a piece of Orissa that broke off of =
his larger piece, then calling it a "complete individual". People, this =
is a fragment, NOT an individual. An individual is a complete piece, or =
almost complete, where you can see it was completely covered in fusion =
crust, or if broken, you can see that it is nearly complete, not a =
broken off fragment from a much larger piece.=20
  Casper used to pull the same crap, describing complete individuals =
then selling you fragments with a scrap of crust.=20

  Another problem I see alot is "oriented".=20
  Most of the stones I see on ebay described as oriented never were, nor =
even begin to look oriented. To be oriented, it needs to clearly show =
that it maintained a particular flight orientation, and in doing so will =
show flow lines in one direction, usually the backside is flat and =
lipped. Some of the boxy pieces that I see as oriented on ebay could not =
be further from the truth.=20
  We need to clear this up and jump on these people who take liberty to =
trump up the pieces they are selling with false claims.=20

  Mike Farmer
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michael, Jim, Matteo, =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is an interesting thread. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it should be =
developped. And I have=20
questions for experts like you guys. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A: Does the presence of some flow lines =
is enough=20
to say that a meteorite is oriented ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>B. Does a meteorite with conical shape =
( approx=20
similar to Bob Haag Venus cone ) but without any crust ( due to a long =
stay on=20
earth surface before find) can be said oriented .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>C:   When thumbprints  =
have a=20
particular elliptical shape  with a depressed side and a rim on the =
other=20
side, is it a sign of orientation.? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michel FRANCO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Caillou Noir</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dmeteoritehunter_at_comcast.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net">Michael Farmer</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 10, =
2003 11:46=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Note =
on=20
  meteorite descriptions</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to note that people need =
to learn a=20
  little about how to describe their meteorites. I have been perusing =
ebay, and=20
  I note so many flawed descriptions. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>People are either 1, trying to =
deceive, or 2,=20
  just clueless about what they have. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For instance, Steve Arnold list a =
piece of Orissa=20
  that broke off of his larger piece, then calling it a "complete =
individual".=20
  People, this is a fragment, NOT an individual. An individual is a =

  complete piece, or almost complete, where you can see it was =
completely=20
  covered in fusion crust, or if broken, you can see that it is nearly =
complete,=20
  not a broken off fragment from a much larger piece. <BR></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2>Casper used to pull the same crap, describing =
complete=20
  individuals then selling you fragments with a scrap of crust. =
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another problem I see alot is =
"oriented".=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most of the stones I see on ebay =
described as=20
  oriented never were, nor even begin to look oriented. To be oriented, =
it needs=20
  to clearly show that it maintained a particular flight orientation, =
and in=20
  doing so will show flow lines in one direction, usually the backside =
is flat=20
  and lipped. Some of the boxy pieces that I see as oriented on ebay =
could not=20
  be further from the truth. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We need to clear this up and jump on =
these people=20
  who take liberty to trump up the pieces they are selling with false =
claims.=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike =
Farmer</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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