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From: Charles R. Viau <cviau_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:16:36 2004
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Pekka, Robert Verish and Robert Matson had some excellent comments on
this, and I wanted to comment back to each.

For Pekka,
 Thanks for sharing that data. The chemical analysis looks
somewhat similar to what I have been told , but does vary. Some people
I have talked to thought that the total absence of MgO and MnO were just
as strange. Some said that these were also common impurities in slag,
especially in minerals related to Ilmenite, and the ratio's and streak
did not match. Also, the physical characteristics of the individual
pieces seemed to have a very thin, even coating of the glass and that a
slag would most likely be homogenous or glass on one side with material
on the other. who knows. It is real strange and I think that what
bothers the analysts the most is that they cannot explain how it was
made. I think an electrical or plasma mechanism is really interesting
and wonder if there is even enough existing data on such phenomena to
help them there as well. I also hope that the resulting analysis won't
require a PhD in petrology to decipher. :-)

For Robert M and Robert V,
 I agree that there should be a priority for those that have
worked so hard and have material in a queue to be examined. I wonder if
the analysts themselves are really kind of their own boss, and perhaps
take on what they feel is easy to disprove first, and then get wrapped
up in the enigma of trying to prove just what it is when it cannot be
easily explained. And/or it was the immediacy of the Elma event, the
story content and the speed in which samples were available to them.In
any case, the NWA thing has hurt a lot of research and NASA should never
have shut the doors on domestic researchers that have finds that have
been properly documented. What they needed to do was put someone in
charge of clearing these finds from the NWA imports based on the
documentation and credibility of the finders.

Thanks,
Charles, IMCA 4351

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for sharing that data. The chemical analysis looks somewhat similar to =
what I
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thought
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were just as strange. Some said  that these were also =
common
impurities in slag, especially in minerals related to Ilmenite,
and the ratio’s and streak did not match. Also, the physical
characteristics of the individual pieces seemed to have a very thin, =
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coating of the glass and that a slag would most likely be homogenous or =
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that what
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made.  I think an electrical or plasma =
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For Robert M and Robert =
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;    I
agree that there should be a priority for those that have worked so hard =
and
have material in a queue to be examined. I wonder if the analysts =
themselves
are really kind of their own boss, and perhaps take on what they feel is =
easy
to disprove first, and then get wrapped up in the enigma of trying to =
prove
just what it is when it cannot be easily explained. And/or it was the =
immediacy
of the Elma event, the story content and the speed in which samples were
available to them…In any case, the NWA thing has hurt a lot of =
research
and NASA should never have shut the doors on domestic researchers that =
have
finds that have been properly documented. What they needed to do was put
someone in charge of clearing these finds from the NWA imports based on =
the
documentation and credibility of the =
finders.<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Thanks,<o:p></o:p>=

Charles, IMCA =
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