[meteorite-list] Spoof warning Additional, State Parks

From: Jensan Scientifics/ Sci-Mall <jensan_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:16:32 2004
Message-ID: <3F3659F4.7D704CE7_at_pcii.net>

Hello list,

Life is not what it should be in the PayPal world, but that also applies
to vacations and state parks.

For those of you going West for vacation fun, as I usually do, the road
can be hazardous.

I had always wanted to visit Mt. St. Helens and so my kids and I decided
to make a vacation out of it. We went up to see the crater at an
observation point, then decided to helicopter into the crater to take a
closer look. This is REALLY cool. There is actually a small waterfall
in the crater. The helicopter guide pointed out some interesting
features of the area. Alot of it was definitely more interesting from
the air.

Then I decided to take a back road from exit 504 headed to Yakima,
Washington. So we get on the back side of Mt. St. Helens headed to
Spirit Lake. Beautiful, luxurious overgrowth, small waterfalls,
semi-pristine appearing land. This was about 7 o'clock at night, still
had a 3 hour drive ahead. Still wanted to see the back side, though,
having driven all the way from Wisconsin to "see it all."

Out of nowhere comes this conversion van with headlights on trying to
touch my bumper, two big guys driving it. I hit the gas and again it
does the same thing. Again and again I hit the gas. They never touch
my bumper but try to get me to stop. In karate they teach you that your
vehicle can be your weapon, if you do not have others. You never stop or
put yourself in position to stop. I took the center of the road where
they could not get along side of me. It finally dawned on me that
car-jacking is real popular along the west coast and they wanted my
Suburban. Fortunately it is a modern Suburban, but it also had
modifications that made it faster then regular Suburbans. We were doing
hairpin turns from 50-80 in a State Park. No one else on the road.
Weird- No, planned on their part. In areas when we had roaming ability
from our cell phone, they seemed to back off, but in void areas they
were persistent.

Later I found out from researching the web that there are at least 700
people that are missing in Washington state alone, and 100 unidentified
bodies. According to many sources drugs are being grown on state park
land, and hiking in beautiful places may not be so cool.

They chased me all the way down the mountain and obviously never got
me. I highly recommend fast driving skills through many parts of
America, unfortunately. I was glad my teenage son was not driving. (He
even admits that) Something like this makes a vacation a NOT vacation.
I was glad to get home.

The object of this post is like paypal, even meteorites, sometimes,
things are not as simple as they should be. Trust your instincts. Even
resorts may not be resorts. And where is a policeman (or state park
trooper) when you need one?

Best,
Sarah
Jensan Scientifics/ Science Mall

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"Charles R. Viau" wrote:
>
> The thing to remember about messages from PayPal, is that they rarely
> ever send you unsolicited mail, and if they do, there is never a link in
> the message that invokes a login to the site. If you do ever get a
> message from them requesting information from you, just examine the mail
> header (in Outlook, just right-click on the message in the inbox folder
> and select "options"). Look at the "received:" line information and you
> can see if the sender was original, or faked. The real Domain name and
> the IP address of the actual sender will show up linked to any phony or
> forged sender address. Also, never go into PayPal in your browser,
> unless the URL starts with "https//" (not http//) like in:"
> https://www.paypal.com..." It is almost impossible for hackers like
> this to be able to use SSL to authenticate their bogus web sites. You
> can prove this by first making sure you disable Active-x and Java
> scripting in your browser, then attempt to invoke the bogus PayPal link.
> The address box in the top of the browser will show "http://", and the
> rest of the URL may start with something like "playpal.com" followed by
> a bunch of directory entries that wind up pointing you to a bogus ASP
> script that will suck up your password. (you have disabled scripting, so
> the page will not show up the way it normally would).
>
> CharlyV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Farmer
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 2:07 AM
> To: Matson, Robert; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: PayPal spoof warning
>
> This has been going around for some time. I never let money pile up in
> my
> account. I had my card number stolen in Brazil, and they got me for $800
> in
> just a few minutes. It was refunded, but remember, PAYPAL is a cash
> account,
> debit, so money can be stolen from it, that is what these scumbags are
> doing.
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matson, Robert" <ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_saic.com>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 10:58 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: PayPal spoof warning
>
> Hi All,
>
> I probably don't need to warn most of you, but just to cover the
> bases I thought I would post a message here since many of you
> probably use PayPal. Some "enterprising" individual(s) is/are
> attempting to trick PayPal customers into revealing detailed
> account information. Usually these "spoofs" are pretty
> unsophisticated, but the one I got today looked official enough
> that someone might get fooled. It starts off with:
>
> "This e-mail is the notification of recent innovations taken by
> PayPal to detect inactive customers and non-functioning mailboxes.
>
> "The inactive customers are subject to restriction and removal in
> the next 3 months.
>
> "Please confirm your email address and credit card information by
> logging in to your PayPal account using the form below:"
>
> - - - -
>
> A form appears with boxes for email address, password, name,
> credit card #, expiration date, and ATM PIN (for bank verification).
> It finishes with the somewhat official-looking paragraphs:
>
> "This PayPal notification was sent to your mailbox. Your PayPal account
> is set up to receive the PayPal Periodical newsletter and product
> updates
> when you create your account. To modify your notification preferences
> and
> unsubscribe, go to https://www.paypal.com/PREFS-NOTI and log in to your
> account. Changes to your preferences may take several days to be
> reflected in our mailings. Replies to this email will not be processed.
>
> CopyrightC 2003 PayPal Inc. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks
> and brands are the property of their respective owners."
>
> - - -
>
> If they hadn't been so stupid to ask for my ATM PIN, I might have
> been a little less suspicious. Just wonder if this should this be
> reported somewhere that handles fraud cases? --Rob
>
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