FW: [meteorite-list] Roman meteorite impact forced Cristianity

From: Charles R. Viau <cviau_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:16:29 2004
Message-ID: <000001c35bc2$540395d0$1800a8c0_at_chupa>

Proving that computers have a way to go before they can reliably
translate the more difficult languages... Your version sure does flow
better. Thanks. -cv

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jose
Campos
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:30 PM
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Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] Roman meteorite impact forced Cristianity


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jose Campos" <josecamposcomet_at_netcabo.pt>
To: <meteorite-list-request_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:48 PM
Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] Roman meteorite impact forced Cristianity


> Hi List,
> As a Portuguese, I am able to give you a more detailed translation of
the
> article:
>
> "It is interesting that, as much as in Sencinaro's legend as in
> Constantino's vision, the event may have apparently occurred in the
> afternoon, when the Sun began its decline. An epigraph found at the
place
of
> the impact my lead
> it to Constantino. But nowadays it's impossible to tell if the flaming
cross
> that the imperor saw ties up with the event of Sirente, although the
> geographical proximity and its time span makes it a case for an
interesting
> possibility," - affirmed the Italian. As per Santilli, it is less than
half
> a century since scientists understood what
> happens when a celestial object hits the Earth. The environmental and
social
> consequences from these impacts would depend on who observes them, and
when.
> The discovery of the Sirente's crater, - says the archeologist, -
offers a
> rare possibility for a direct connection between field observations
and a
> legend preserved during more than 15 centuries.
> "The confusion about the choice of religion, at that period of time,
may
> have been affected by a natural spectacular phenomenon", - says
Santilli.
> (end of translation).
>
> I would like to add a few remarks: The article in Portuguese was
written
by
> a brasilian newsmen, Claudio Angelo, for the brasilian newspaper
"Folha de
> S. Paulo (13/07/2003) and it is approximately 4 A4 size pages.The
above
> translation is the last page of the article.
> The crater of Sirente was recently discovered by a team headed by a
Sweddish
> astrobiologist, Jens Orm=F6, Instituto Nacional de T=E9cnica =
Aeroespacial,
> Spain.
> It is the first meteorite crater identified in Italy. Anyone
interested in
> more info on the article, please let me know. I have recently read an
> article about this event.
> Jos=E9 Campos
> Portugal
> josecamposcomet_at_netcabo.pt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it>
> To: "Steve Schoner" <steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com>; "Charles R. Viau"
> <cviau_at_beld.net>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:57 AM
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Roman meteorite impact forced
Cristianity
>
>
> > Hello
> >
> > Hard to find pieces of the meteorite, for the moment
> > any piace is found, and is hard to go for research why
> > is a protect area where it is not possible to dig
> > without to have allowed
> > regards
> >
> > Matteo
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Steve Schoner <steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Let's get some field collectors out there and get
> > > some
> > > of Constantine's meteorite samples.
> > >
> > > Now that would be great.
> > >
> > > Steve Schoner/ams
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Charles R. Viau" <cviau_at_beld.net> wrote:
> > > > The quote was as intriguing as the subject...
> > > first
> > > > thought it was
> > > > Latin, then Italian, but it is Portuguese.
> > > > Thanks for that bit of immortal history, it goes
> > > in
> > > > my permanent
> > > > archives as "very interesting meteorite lore"
> > > > -CharlyV IMCA 4351
> > > >
> > > > Thus:
> > > > -Translated:
> > > >
> > > > "It is interesting that, so much in the legend of
> > > > Sencinaro I eat in the
> > > > vision of Constantino, the event apparently have
> > > > occurred in the period
> > > > from the afternoon, when the Sun began decline it.
> > >
> > > > An ep=EDgrafe found
> > > > nearby the localities of the impact can cause to
> > > > Constantino. But today
> > > > it is impossible himself say the flaming cross
> > > that
> > > > the imperador saw
> > > > beats with the event of Sirente, although the
> > > > geographical proximity and
> > > > storm do of that an interesting possibility",
> > > > affirmed the Italian.
> > > >
> > > > Second Santilli, there is less than environment
> > > > century the scientists
> > > > began understand it happens what when a celestial
> > > > object reaches the
> > > > Land. The social and environmental consequences
> > > of
> > > > those impacts would
> > > > depend whose observes them, and when. The
> > > discovery
> > > > from the crater of
> > > > Sirente, affirms the archeologist, offers a rare
> > > > possibility of straight
> > > > connection between observations of field and a
> > > > legend preserved during
> > > > more of 15 centuries.
> > > >
> > > > "To tangle about the choice from the religion in
> > > > that period may have
> > > > been affected by a spectacular natural
> > > phenomenon",
> > > > affirms Santilli.
> > > >
> > > > -end Translate
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > > [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of
> > > > michelle03_at_swissinfo.org
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:51 PM
> > > > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Roman meteorite impact
> > > > forced Cristianity
> > > >
> > > > A meteorite impact of the IV century AD might have
> > > > converted Constantine
> > > > and spread the expansion of Cristianity.
> > > >
> > > > The impact site is located in the Abruzzo
> > > > (Italy)inside the Sirente
> > > > Velino
> > > > Regional Park, near Rome.
> > > >
> > > > Research has been carried out by the italian
> > > > archaeologist Roberto
> > > > Santilli
> > > > with the support of a group of geologists.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/ciencia/ult306u9576.shtml
> > > >
> > > > <<
> > > >
> > > > "=C9 interessante que, tanto na lenda de Sencinaro
> > > > como na vis=E3o de
> > > > Constantino,
> > > > o evento tenha aparentemente ocorrido no per=EDodo
> > > da
> > > > tarde, quando o Sol
> > > > come=E7ava a declinar. Uma ep=EDgrafe encontrada perto
> > > > do local do impacto
> > > > pode
> > > > levar a Constantino. Mas hoje =E9 imposs=EDvel dizer
> > > se
> > > > a cruz flamejante
> > > > que
> > > > o imperador viu bate com o evento de Sirente,
> > > embora
> > > > a proximidade
> > > > geogr=E1fica
> > > > e temporal fa=E7a disso uma possibilidade
> > > > interessante", afirmou o
> > > > italiano.
> > > >
> > > > Segundo Santilli, h=E1 menos de meio s=E9culo os
> > > > cientistas come=E7aram a
> > > > entender
> > > > o que acontece quando um objeto celeste atinge a
> > > > Terra. As consequ=EAncias
> > > > ambientais e sociais desses impactos dependeriam
> > > de
> > > > quem os observa, e
> > > > quando.
> > > > A descoberta da cratera de Sirente, afirma o
> > > > arque=F3logo, oferece uma
> > > > possibilidade
> > > > rara de conex=E3o direta entre observa=E7=F5es de campo
> > > e
> > > > uma lenda preservada
> > > > durante mais de 15 s=E9culos.
> > > >
> > > > "A confus=E3o sobre a escolha da religi=E3o nesse
> > > > per=EDodo pode ter sido
> > > > afetada
> > > > por um fen=F4meno natural espetacular", afirma
> > > > Santilli.
> > > >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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