[meteorite-list] New Find

From: N Lehrman <nlehrman_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:14:08 2004
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Mark/list,

There are a couple of questions that arise:

In my experience, lechatelierite is typically found as microscopic =
threads within impact glass and fulgurites. Am I missing something? =
Has anyone heard of massive hand-specimen and larger sized chunks of =
lechatelierite?

Second, not a question but a statement: since the word "moldavite" =
applies to tektites found in the Moldau River region, primarily in the =
Czech Republic, the word is certainly misused in the current context.

Mark, I don't mean to be a skeptic, but in this field of study, it tends =
to be the correct stance much of the time. We learn to watch for these =
little red flags when judging the overall story. I'll look forward to =
seeing the rest of your evidence and surely do hope you've got a winner.

Norm Lehrman
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mark Jackson=20
  To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 6:59 AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] New Find


  OK folks. This is going to be very, very difficult for you to believe; =
I am pinching myself every few minutes to make sure I'm awake. I assure =
you this is no joke. Later today I will have photos back I can post for =
you all of the place I am working. I have discovered a complex impact =
zone in the Southwestern US with multiple crater sites. Big ones. Two I =
have seen with my own eyes are in excess of 1/2 mile wide! I have =
evidence that these may be the head of an impact zone that stretches =
nearly 80 miles! I see possible evidence of up to seven impactors =
hitting in a 4 mile radius of where I have been working.

  OK here's the deal. I have a lot of material being analyzed, =
classified and catalogued. I am not going to release ANY meteoritic =
material until I have all that work done.

  However, there are some nice pieces of impact evidence that prove =
beyond any doubt that this is a meteorite impact zone. For instance, =
there are some gorgeous lechatelierites at the head of the zone. I =
better qualify my statement here; I say "head" of the zone because of =
the ultra high angle of attack these impactors came in on. I am no =
expert in these matters but my best guess is they might have been in an =
AoA as little as ten degrees. Anyway these lechatelierites are at the =
"area of first influence of the main impactor". Evidence points to the =
main impactor being a carbonaceous chondrite and thus some =
lechatelierites are pelted with microspherules of impactor material. One =
has a gorgeous moldavite buried in it's face! These lechatelierites are =
from 4 to 7 inches thick and weigh 1 to 2 kilos.

  If anyone wants some of the lechatelierite material from this pristine =
new find, let me know. I will work on pictures of these things so you =
can see them. If anyone wants a particular impact related feature from =
this site, let me know. Once again let me reiterate about the impactor =
material - there are several samples being looked at for verification =
and classification. Until that process can complete I will not release =
meteoritic material. Have patience . . . there's plenty worth waiting =
for I promise.

  Have a great day list-buds!


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mark/list,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>There are a couple of questions that =
arise:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>In my experience, lechatelierite is typically found =
as=20
microscopic threads within impact glass and fulgurites.&nbsp; Am I =
missing=20
something?&nbsp; Has anyone heard of massive hand-specimen and larger =
sized=20
chunks of lechatelierite?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Second, not a question but a statement:&nbsp; since =
the word=20
"moldavite" applies to tektites found in the Moldau River region, =
primarily in=20
the Czech Republic, the word is certainly misused in the current=20
context.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mark, I don't mean to be a skeptic, but in this =
field of=20
study, it tends to be the correct stance much of the time.&nbsp; We =
learn to=20
watch for these little red flags when judging the overall story.&nbsp; =
I'll look=20
forward to seeing the rest of your evidence and surely do hope you've =
got a=20
winner.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Norm Lehrman</FONT></DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Db0rtz2003_at_yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:b0rtz2003_at_yahoo.com">Mark=20
  Jackson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
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6:59=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] New =
Find</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>OK folks. This is going to be very, very difficult for you to =
believe; I=20
  am pinching myself every few minutes to make sure I'm awake. I assure =
you this=20
  is no joke. Later today I will have photos back I can post for you all =
of the=20
  place I am working. I have discovered a complex impact zone =
in&nbsp;the=20
  Southwestern US&nbsp;with multiple crater sites. Big ones.&nbsp;Two I =
have=20
  seen with my own eyes are in excess of 1/2 mile wide! I&nbsp;have =
evidence=20
  that these may be the head of an impact zone that stretches nearly 80 =
miles! I=20
  see possible evidence of up to seven impactors hitting in a 4 mile =
radius of=20
  where I have been working.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>OK here's the deal. I have a lot of material being analyzed, =
classified=20
  and catalogued. I am not going to release&nbsp;ANY meteoritic=20
  material&nbsp;until I have all that work done.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>However, there are some nice&nbsp;pieces of impact evidence that =
prove=20
  beyond any doubt that this is a meteorite impact zone. For instance, =
there are=20
  some gorgeous lechatelierites at the head of the zone. I better =
qualify my=20
  statement here; I say "head" of the zone because of the ultra high =
angle of=20
  attack these impactors came in on. I am no expert in these matters but =
my best=20
  guess is they might have been in an AoA as little as&nbsp;ten degrees. =
Anyway=20
  these lechatelierites are at the "area of first influence of the main=20
  impactor". Evidence points to the main impactor being a carbonaceous =
chondrite=20
  and thus some lechatelierites are pelted with microspherules of =
impactor=20
  material. One has a gorgeous moldavite buried in it's face! These=20
  lechatelierites are from 4 to 7 inches thick and weigh 1 to 2 =
kilos.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>If anyone wants some of the lechatelierite material from this =
pristine=20
  new find, let me know. I will work on pictures of these things so you =
can see=20
  them. If anyone wants a particular impact related feature from this =
site, let=20
  me know. Once again let me reiterate about the impactor material - =
there are=20
  several samples being looked at for verification and classification. =
Until=20
  that process can complete I will not release meteoritic material. Have =

  patience . . . there's plenty worth waiting for I promise.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Have a great day list-buds!</DIV>
  <P>
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