[meteorite-list] Bessey comment

From: John Divelbiss <j.divelbiss_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:08:21 2004
Message-ID: <001e01c2552d$75a17500$19155a0c_at_0m824>

Bernd, Dave and list,

I concur with the comments to date. But I thought it really wasn't meteorite
until the "council" says it is? For now it is just a rock, right.

My gut tells me that science as a whole is missing the boat with the
NWA's...someday the negative positions taken during these times over the
lack information like location, particulars of find, etc. will be a mistake
that can't be fixed. I know this subject has had a lot of press, but from a
simpletons point of view the treatment of the most NWA's not being
legitimate is wrong. I have no clue as to the fix(es) for the problems
perceived, but to "putoff or shun" the likes of Dean and others to get
classifications done in a timely matter is a mistake. Some dealers have
direct connections that make this less of a problem...but they are in the
minority I would think. A concerted effort to improve all aspects of this
problem, including the availability of labs capable of doing such work
should be done before we lose the bulk of potential information on these
great rocks. It is late in the game, but not too late I would hope. There
are many great pieces out here that are orphaned at this point...with owners
wanting to know what it is.

Protesting not to buy or acknowledge this so called junk only reinforces
this stubborn position. Those doing so are adding to the thick crust of the
objectors...limiting science instead of improving it.

>From the sounds of it, fixing the problems (some real, some perceived due to
association) in Morocco are probably the hardest to resolve...and they may
never be. But once the rocks are in hand, why can't the community come to
grips with helping all of us with the classification process.

This is my two cents. I am newbie to all this, collecting only for three
years. I'm sure many smart people out there have more insight. But when you
break it down in my mind, the general treatment of NWA's (and other African
meteorites) is WRONG!

I read an article written in May by fellow list member Norbert Classen that
discusses this issue from another field collectors point of view. I totally
agree and hope others will come forward to help this situation out. The link
is http://www.meteorite.fr/en/news/feature.htm

Thanx for your time and forgive me if you are offended,

John Divelbiss (BL #33)
IMCA2006

PS If no one responds, that's OK with me...it has happened before.
PSS Dean, keep trying for all of us.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernd Pauli HD" <bernd.pauli_at_lehrer.uni-karlsruhe.de>
To: "Radosevich, Dave" <Dave.Radosevich_at_trw.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:31 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Bessey comment


> An enthusiastic Dave wrote:
>
> > If this is the "worst of the bunch" then the other 39 folks
> > got really really nice specimens. My BL15 is way better than
> > the photo. Mine has it all. It's oriented and shows flow lines,
> > rollover edge, and plenty of thumb prints. A personal thanks to
> > Dean Bessey for bringing this truly nice NWA to all of us (40).
>
>
> Hi Dave, BL-owners and List,
>
> Welcome to the BL-Club :-) Your description says it all! Congrats
> on this breathtaking specimen. I wanted to buy this one because of
> its relatively low weight (which saves money) but "didn't like the
> horizontal scar". Oh, well ...
>
> > I normally dont buy NWA's for reasons we have shared on this list.
>
> They are meteorites without a pedigree ... but does beauty need
> a pedigree? They are meteorites. They have come from the same
> places as their "decent" brethren w i t h a pedigree! My two
> Euro-cents!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bernd (BL #18)
>
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