[meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)

From: Jonathan Gore <jonathan.g_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:07:00 2004
Message-ID: <001101c27230$10cecc20$48415c40_at_GoreComputer>

What does this have to do with meteorites?


Jonathan M. Gore
jonathan.g_at_vol.com
astrojonathan_at_msn.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "azaware" <azaware_at_msn.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)


| Oh no not another Norton employee. You sound like you graduated from the
| school of Bill Clinton, belittle the messenger.
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Mark Miconi" <mam602_at_cox.net>
| To: "azaware" <azaware_at_msn.com>
| Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
| Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:22 AM
| Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)
|
|
| > Having worked in the computer industry for almost 16 years I can tell
you
| > that viruses and their spread are the product of 2 things in this order:
| >
| > 1). Computer experts that have nothing better to do then find a way to
| show
| > their talent by creating a virus.
| > 2). Malicious individuals that seek to cause havoc for various reasons.
| >
| > The reason that they are so prolific and spread so easily is that most
of
| > the users in this world are ignorant enough to believe that they will
| never
| > be infected. These are the same individuals that fall for telephone
scams,
| > buy the Banjo Minnow, and believe that they can swallow a pill and lose
50
| > pounds in 6 weeks. These people are found in the dictionary....look
under
| > clueless and victims for pictures.
| >
| > Anyone that would even begin to believe that a company like
| > Symantec(Nortons) would deliberately create a virus to sell their
product
| > regularly drink their own bath water and have a family tree that does
not
| > branch.
| >
| > With the general public walking about so completely clueless it would be
a
| > waste of capital for a company to invest in a R & D program to create
| > something that already is being made for free and that the mainstream
| > population is so willing to spread.
| >
| > There is a moral to all of this....Milk does not come from a jug, crime
is
| > not something that happens to your neighbor and being on the internet
| > without virus protection is just plain stupid.
| >
| > Mark M.
| > Arizona
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: azaware <azaware_at_msn.com>
| > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
| > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:35 AM
| > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)
| >
| >
| > > Below is a weeks worth of emails sent to me with viruses. I will grant
| you
| > > there really are some real lunatics out there, but what are we talking
| > about
| > > a couple ok 5 all right 10 a week. The reason I get so many is because
| > this
| > > Email is 7 years old, so I'm on every kind of list out there. I
remember
| > > when we didn't have viruses or Norton and now we have Norton and
| viruses.
| > I
| > > wouldn't be surprise if Norton the company were started from the guys
| who
| > > started sending virus. I remember the first viruses, I can see it now
| the
| > > guy thought wow I can give this guy a virus then he can call me to fix
| it.
| > > And now you can call Norton on the phone and for $35 + $99 will help
you
| > get
| > > it off. You almost sound like you work for Norton and this is
something
| > > Norton would not want to get around, because until now they was this
| great
| > > savor. Ok have the big guy at Norton give me a call I could be quit
for
| a
| > > price! Other wise I going to expose those s.o.b's. Now you see all
these
| > > emails. I hardly think kids or these other people are going to go to
| this
| > > great length to take the time to send out this many viruses with all
| these
| > > different email address.
| > >
| > >
| > > bogdanka_at_polj.ns.ac.yu
| > > susan49842_at_hud.ac.uk
| > > love_at_friends.org
| > > kb922p_at_mailpride.com
| > > mppmg_at_bolt.com
| > > greg8835_at_yahoo.com
| > > txbtm_at_care2.com
| > > notbyyou_at_yahoo.com
| > > toall_at_mce.co.jp
| > > ptrkm8_at_lycos.com
| > > bmw0mr09348r_at_hotmail.com
| > > dnmle_at_ea.o
| > > KIMMY_at_msn.com
| > > test_at_hotbot.com
| > > freeser_at_hotpop.com
| > > smeer_at_bbs.mtlebanon.k12.pa.us
| > > Trifecta01.10_at_reply.mb00.net
| > > jhall_at_linkii.com
| > > aaffds3_at_yahoo.com
| > > abamba_at_nesda.org
| > > jclgSam_at_mail.com
| > > liveandnasty_at_email.com
| > > optindeals.12_at_reply.mb00.net
| > > jej_220021458_at_msn.com
| > > Trifecta01.17_at_reply.mb00.net
| > > Kelly.Evens4648_at_eudoramail.com
| > > urggralbo56_at_rocketmail.com
| > > danwilder_at_arabia.com
| > > loliulretnamt_at_hotmail.com
| > > vhypnosis_at_yahoo.com
| > > kjjked333_at_qualitymail.com
| > > optindeals.11_at_reply.mb00.net
| > > freescreensaver_at_love4u.net
| > >
| > >
| > > ----- Original Message -----
| > > From: <geoking_at_notkin.net>
| > > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
| > > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:18 AM
| > > Subject: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)
| > >
| > >
| > > > Dear Ken, Kim and List:
| > > >
| > > > I realize this is more than a little OT and probably wasting some
| > > > people's time -- so I apologize in advance -- but I just couldn't
| > > > resist. Of all the weird things I've seen on the M-List (and there
| > > > have been plenty), accusing Symantec of creating new viruses in
order
| > > > to sell their own products is one of the nuttiest . . . right up
| > > > there with the Frass meteorite even!
| > > >
| > > > Kim posted:
| > > >
| > > > > Norton has to behind this, who else is making out.
| > > > > Norton paying these guys to this.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > Ken posted:
| > > >
| > > > >I agree with you, Norton was behind this!
| > > > >I vowed then and there not to buy their product!
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > People create viruses for all sorts of reasons: Kids do it for fun;
| > > > anarchists do it because it's anarchistic; hackers target companies
| > > > they don't like; disgruntled employees ditto; and so on. In the
| > > > hacker subculture it is a major status symbol to have created a
virus
| > > > that's caused international mayhem. You may not have encountered
| > > > these types of characters in real life but I have, and I assure you
| > > > they are active, numerous, and damn clever. I suppose you could say
| > > > they are the digital age's version of the neighborhood prankster.
| > > > Some have eventually been employed by our own government, in a sort
| > > > of "If we can't beat them, get them on the payroll" scenario.
| > > >
| > > > Symantec -- the company that manufactures Norton Antivirus, Norton
| > > > Utilities, Systemworks, etc. -- is an excellent outfit and in my
| > > > opinion vital to the professional computer user. I couldn't have
kept
| > > > my numerous computer stations running all these years with them.
I've
| > > > employed nearly all of their products for as long as I've been using
| > > > computers for a living. They've helped me root out all kinds of
virus
| > > > trouble, hardware problems, prevented hackers getting into my
| > > > systems, and on and on.
| > > >
| > > > I don't want to waste the List's time with OT discussions, but -- no
| > > > offense intended -- your statements are absolute nonsense, and could
| > > > actually be damaging by negatively influencing List subscribers who
| > > > might otherwise buy these useful products. Hence the rebuttal.
| > > >
| > > > We all get angry over virus issues, and really I do sympathize with
| > > > you guys, but posting preposterous statements about one of the few
| > > > companies that combats the problem is not going to help. If you
would
| > > > like to discuss this further, please write to me off-List. I would
be
| > > > happy to furnish you with additional information on the subject that
| > > > may be useful to you.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > Sincerely,
| > > >
| > > > Geoff N.
| > > > www.notkin.net
| > > > www.paleozoic.org
| > > >
| > > >
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