[meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)

From: Mark Miconi <mam602_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:07:00 2004
Message-ID: <001401c2720b$9bddb440$54b60344_at_ph.cox.net>

Having worked in the computer industry for almost 16 years I can tell you
that viruses and their spread are the product of 2 things in this order:

1). Computer experts that have nothing better to do then find a way to show
their talent by creating a virus.
2). Malicious individuals that seek to cause havoc for various reasons.

The reason that they are so prolific and spread so easily is that most of
the users in this world are ignorant enough to believe that they will never
be infected. These are the same individuals that fall for telephone scams,
buy the Banjo Minnow, and believe that they can swallow a pill and lose 50
pounds in 6 weeks. These people are found in the dictionary....look under
clueless and victims for pictures.

Anyone that would even begin to believe that a company like
Symantec(Nortons) would deliberately create a virus to sell their product
regularly drink their own bath water and have a family tree that does not
branch.

With the general public walking about so completely clueless it would be a
waste of capital for a company to invest in a R & D program to create
something that already is being made for free and that the mainstream
population is so willing to spread.

There is a moral to all of this....Milk does not come from a jug, crime is
not something that happens to your neighbor and being on the internet
without virus protection is just plain stupid.

Mark M.
Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: azaware <azaware_at_msn.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)


> Below is a weeks worth of emails sent to me with viruses. I will grant you
> there really are some real lunatics out there, but what are we talking
about
> a couple ok 5 all right 10 a week. The reason I get so many is because
this
> Email is 7 years old, so I'm on every kind of list out there. I remember
> when we didn't have viruses or Norton and now we have Norton and viruses.
I
> wouldn't be surprise if Norton the company were started from the guys who
> started sending virus. I remember the first viruses, I can see it now the
> guy thought wow I can give this guy a virus then he can call me to fix it.
> And now you can call Norton on the phone and for $35 + $99 will help you
get
> it off. You almost sound like you work for Norton and this is something
> Norton would not want to get around, because until now they was this great
> savor. Ok have the big guy at Norton give me a call I could be quit for a
> price! Other wise I going to expose those s.o.b's. Now you see all these
> emails. I hardly think kids or these other people are going to go to this
> great length to take the time to send out this many viruses with all these
> different email address.
>
>
> bogdanka_at_polj.ns.ac.yu
> susan49842_at_hud.ac.uk
> love_at_friends.org
> kb922p_at_mailpride.com
> mppmg_at_bolt.com
> greg8835_at_yahoo.com
> txbtm_at_care2.com
> notbyyou_at_yahoo.com
> toall_at_mce.co.jp
> ptrkm8_at_lycos.com
> bmw0mr09348r_at_hotmail.com
> dnmle_at_ea.o
> KIMMY_at_msn.com
> test_at_hotbot.com
> freeser_at_hotpop.com
> smeer_at_bbs.mtlebanon.k12.pa.us
> Trifecta01.10_at_reply.mb00.net
> jhall_at_linkii.com
> aaffds3_at_yahoo.com
> abamba_at_nesda.org
> jclgSam_at_mail.com
> liveandnasty_at_email.com
> optindeals.12_at_reply.mb00.net
> jej_220021458_at_msn.com
> Trifecta01.17_at_reply.mb00.net
> Kelly.Evens4648_at_eudoramail.com
> urggralbo56_at_rocketmail.com
> danwilder_at_arabia.com
> loliulretnamt_at_hotmail.com
> vhypnosis_at_yahoo.com
> kjjked333_at_qualitymail.com
> optindeals.11_at_reply.mb00.net
> freescreensaver_at_love4u.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <geoking_at_notkin.net>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:18 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)
>
>
> > Dear Ken, Kim and List:
> >
> > I realize this is more than a little OT and probably wasting some
> > people's time -- so I apologize in advance -- but I just couldn't
> > resist. Of all the weird things I've seen on the M-List (and there
> > have been plenty), accusing Symantec of creating new viruses in order
> > to sell their own products is one of the nuttiest . . . right up
> > there with the Frass meteorite even!
> >
> > Kim posted:
> >
> > > Norton has to behind this, who else is making out.
> > > Norton paying these guys to this.
> >
> >
> > Ken posted:
> >
> > >I agree with you, Norton was behind this!
> > >I vowed then and there not to buy their product!
> >
> >
> > People create viruses for all sorts of reasons: Kids do it for fun;
> > anarchists do it because it's anarchistic; hackers target companies
> > they don't like; disgruntled employees ditto; and so on. In the
> > hacker subculture it is a major status symbol to have created a virus
> > that's caused international mayhem. You may not have encountered
> > these types of characters in real life but I have, and I assure you
> > they are active, numerous, and damn clever. I suppose you could say
> > they are the digital age's version of the neighborhood prankster.
> > Some have eventually been employed by our own government, in a sort
> > of "If we can't beat them, get them on the payroll" scenario.
> >
> > Symantec -- the company that manufactures Norton Antivirus, Norton
> > Utilities, Systemworks, etc. -- is an excellent outfit and in my
> > opinion vital to the professional computer user. I couldn't have kept
> > my numerous computer stations running all these years with them. I've
> > employed nearly all of their products for as long as I've been using
> > computers for a living. They've helped me root out all kinds of virus
> > trouble, hardware problems, prevented hackers getting into my
> > systems, and on and on.
> >
> > I don't want to waste the List's time with OT discussions, but -- no
> > offense intended -- your statements are absolute nonsense, and could
> > actually be damaging by negatively influencing List subscribers who
> > might otherwise buy these useful products. Hence the rebuttal.
> >
> > We all get angry over virus issues, and really I do sympathize with
> > you guys, but posting preposterous statements about one of the few
> > companies that combats the problem is not going to help. If you would
> > like to discuss this further, please write to me off-List. I would be
> > happy to furnish you with additional information on the subject that
> > may be useful to you.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Geoff N.
> > www.notkin.net
> > www.paleozoic.org
> >
> >
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