[meteorite-list] More details....& thanks! Got had & need help.
From: SHELLY1999 <SHELLY1999_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:04:51 2004 Message-ID: <001701c2019d$bad4d9c0$df1ff343_at_pavilion> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2019D.B8B41CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry to hear of your dilemma concerning a e-bay auction. I can only say = that when a seller does not give a return policy with the auction you = must ask for such. E-MAIL the seller stating " What is your return = policy " and if you do not get a satisfactory response DO NOT BID! I have found that this has saved me alot of trouble that I would = probably had otherwise. Also save the sellers response if and when a problem does occur you have = some evidence to backup your claim. Yours, Mike Mikowski ----- Original Message -----=20 From: magellon=20 To: TMS/TNS/HRC ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] More details....& thanks! Got had & need = help. Jeannie,=20 I checked my emails. Not only has this person used the ID's = "j.c.z.inc","bubbamisen", but also as "pahanaswife". Instead of email = name " Judith McCabe," this person replied to me in Feb as Colin Scott. = I am sure this is the same person because the Link to the auction for = "pahanaswife" now shows the ID "j.c.z.inc". (Feb auction - 200 plus = pieces meteorite ) This is one slippery person. When asked I about the = CD meteorites in Feb, I was told the light coloration was from dust as = they had not been cleaned. I then wrote back asking if he would = guarantee these as being metal (nickel/iron) , I have no record of a = reply.=20 Jeannie, I think the way to get this guy is his own reference to: " It = is forbidden to collect this material now after the federal government = slapped a irreplacable resourse label on it." I have always thought that = this regulation referred to core material and not oxide. If so, he has = trapped himself. However, I don't know where to get more info on this. = Perhaps the someone on the List knows?=20 I did write "j.c.z.inc" (address - bubbamisen_at_yahoo.com) encouraging = this person to refund the monies only to get a harsh reply threatening = to sue me.( sound familiar?) Hopefully, others will write this = person.(Auction in dispute - Item # 1088285627 ) A large number of = emails could have an attitude adjusting effect.=20 Best,=20 Ken Newton=20 PS - This person also wrote claiming to have 150 satisfied meteorite = customers, yet he has only 16 feedbacks. Of those 16 only 3 are for = Canyon Diablo Meteorites and of those only 2 are different persons. = Where are the other 148?=20 TMS/TNS/HRC wrote:=20 Hello list! First off, let me thank again everyone who responded so = quickly and thoughtfully to my dilemma. I so much appreciate the = kindness and generosity of this list. What a great group of people! = Since I have given the seller ample time to make good, and right this = situation to no avail I'm going to post all the details of the = transaction in hopes that no one else will run into the same problems. = The material is pale and orangy/tan in color. Some pieces are slightly = attracted to a magnet (but obviously less than to a real CD), and others = are not. They are mostly rather flat and angular with many having a = layered appearance. The heft is also noticeably lighter than Canyon = Diablos. Yes, the purchase was made on Ebay. The auction # is = 1088285627 and is still available for viewing. The title of the auction = is "30+ Pieces of Canyon Diablo Meteorite". As you can see, the photo = is not the best. I have been tracking the seller closely and they have = not posted any more "meteorite" auctions since the one I bought, just = garage sale junk. I would be very suprised if they are members of this = list, or of the "meteorite community" in general. There were some = auctions of this material sold before mine, however. I do not recognize = any of the bidders or winners of these auctions but I am not really = familiar with people's Ebay user IDs. The user's name is Judith McCabe, = with a user ID of "j.c.z.inc". This is a new user ID. The one in place = for the sale of the "meteorite" material was "bubbamisen". There was no = return address on the box I received in the mail, but the post mark was = Oswego, NY. After expressing my dissatisfaction and wish to return the = merchandise, this is the response I received from the seller: "The items = sent you are deffinetly canyon diablo meteorite as listed in issue 5 of = the meteorite encyclopedia. If as you say you have indeed been a dealer = you would know this. We have over 150 satisfied customers with this = material. And we can prove the material was collected from the crater = rim. " I emailed back with a very straightforward and polite reply, = explaining to the best of my ability why I felt the material was = misrepresented and asking for an address to return the material. I = received no reply. If anyone has any knowledge of this person, or this = auction, or has had dealings with her please let me know (on or = offlist). I would be interested to know. I'll keep everyone posted = with what happens, just so you know. I'm also going to try to take some = pictures this evening of the material I was sent next to some known = Canyon Diablos, and if I can get a good image I will post it here so you = can see it firsthand.Thank you again everyone, and any more replies I = get will be most appreciated. Remember Ebayers, it's a jungle out there! = : ) Regards to all,Jeannie DevonIMCA #9236The Museum Store/The Nature = SourceAnchorage, AKwww.thenaturesource.com = ______________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2019D.B8B41CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to hear of your dilemma = concerning a e-bay=20 auction. I can only say that when a seller does not give a return policy = with=20 the auction you must ask for such. E-MAIL the seller stating " What is = your=20 return policy " and if you do not get a satisfactory response DO NOT=20 BID!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have found that this has saved me = alot of trouble=20 that I would probably had otherwise.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also save the sellers response if and = when a=20 problem does occur you have some evidence to backup your = claim.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yours,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Mikowski</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT>----- Original Message = ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:magellon_at_earthlink.net"=20 title=3Dmagellon_at_earthlink.net>magellon</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:musnat_at_alaska.net"=20 title=3Dmusnat_at_alaska.net>TMS/TNS/HRC</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 22, 2002 = 4:53=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = More=20 details....& thanks! Got had & need help.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Jeannie, <BR>I checked my emails. Not only has this = person used=20 the ID's "j.c.z.inc","bubbamisen", but also as "pahanaswife". Instead = of email=20 name " Judith McCabe," this person replied to me in Feb as Colin = Scott. =20 I am sure this is the same person because the Link to the auction for=20 "pahanaswife" now shows the ID "j.c.z.inc".<FONT size=3D+1> = </FONT>(Feb auction=20 -<FONT size=3D+1> </FONT> <A=20 = href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1071= 009095">200=20 plus pieces meteorite</A> ) This is one slippery person. When asked I = about=20 the CD meteorites in Feb, I was told the light coloration was from = dust as=20 they had not been cleaned. I then wrote back asking if he would=20 guarantee these as being metal (nickel/iron) , I have no record = of a=20 reply. <BR>Jeannie, I think the way to get this guy is his own = reference to: "=20 It is forbidden to collect<B> this materia</B>l now after the federal=20 government slapped a irreplacable resourse label on it." I have always = thought=20 that this regulation referred to<B> core material</B> and not oxide. = If so, he=20 has trapped himself. However, I don't know where to get more info on = this.=20 Perhaps the someone on the List knows? <BR>I did write "j.c.z.inc" = (address -=20 bubbamisen_at_yahoo.com) encouraging this person to refund the = monies only=20 to get a harsh reply threatening to sue me.( sound = familiar?) =20 Hopefully, others will write this person.(Auction in dispute - = <A=20 = href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D10882856= 27">Item=20 # 1088285627</A> ) A large number of emails could have an = attitude=20 adjusting effect. <BR>Best, <BR>Ken Newton <BR>PS - This person also = wrote=20 claiming to have 150 satisfied meteorite customers, yet he has only 16 = feedbacks. Of those 16 only 3 are for Canyon Diablo Meteorites and of = those=20 only 2 are different persons. Where are the other 148?<FONT=20 size=3D+1></FONT>=20 <P>TMS/TNS/HRC wrote:=20 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE"> <STYLE></STYLE> <FONT size=3D+1>Hello list!</FONT> <FONT size=3D+1>First off, = let me thank=20 again everyone who responded so quickly and thoughtfully to my=20 dilemma. I so much appreciate the kindness and generosity of = this=20 list. What a great group of people!</FONT> <FONT = size=3D+1>Since I=20 have given the seller ample time to make good, and right this = situation to=20 no avail I'm going to post all the details of the transaction in = hopes that=20 no one else will run into the same problems.</FONT> <FONT = size=3D+1>The=20 material is pale and orangy/tan in color. Some pieces are = slightly=20 attracted to a magnet (but obviously less than to a real CD), and = others are=20 not. They are mostly rather flat and angular with many having = a=20 layered appearance. The heft is also noticeably lighter than = Canyon=20 Diablos.</FONT> <FONT size=3D+1>Yes, the purchase was made on = Ebay. =20 The auction # is 1088285627 and is still available for = viewing. The=20 title of the auction is "30+ Pieces of Canyon Diablo = Meteorite". As=20 you can see, the photo is not the best. I have been tracking = the=20 seller closely and they have not posted any more "meteorite" = auctions since=20 the one I bought, just garage sale junk. I would be very = suprised if=20 they are members of this list, or of the "meteorite community" in=20 general. There were some auctions of this material sold before = mine,=20 however. I do not recognize any of the bidders or winners of = these=20 auctions but I am not really familiar with people's Ebay user=20 IDs.</FONT> <FONT size=3D+1>The user's name is Judith McCabe, = with a user=20 ID of "j.c.z.inc". This is a new user ID. The one in = place for=20 the sale of the "meteorite" material was "bubbamisen". There = was no=20 return address on the box I received in the mail, but the post mark = was=20 Oswego, NY.</FONT> <FONT size=3D+1>After expressing my = dissatisfaction=20 and wish to return the merchandise, this is the response I received = from the=20 seller:</FONT> "The items sent you are deffinetly canyon diablo = meteorite as listed in issue 5 of the meteorite encyclopedia. If as = you say=20 you have indeed been a dealer you would know this. We have over 150=20 satisfied customers with this material. And we can prove the = material was=20 collected from the crater rim. " <FONT size=3D+1>I emailed back = with a=20 very straightforward and polite reply, explaining to the best of my = ability=20 why I felt the material was misrepresented and asking for an address = to=20 return the material. I received no reply.</FONT> <FONT = size=3D+1>If=20 anyone has any knowledge of this person, or this auction, or has had = dealings with her please let me know (on or offlist). I would = be=20 interested to know. I'll keep everyone posted with what = happens, just=20 so you know.</FONT> <FONT size=3D+1>I'm also going to try to = take some=20 pictures this evening of the material I was sent next to some known = Canyon=20 Diablos, and if I can get a good image I will post it here so you = can see it=20 firsthand.</FONT><FONT size=3D+1>Thank you again everyone, and any = more=20 replies I get will be most appreciated.</FONT> <FONT = size=3D+1>Remember=20 Ebayers, it's a jungle out there! : )</FONT> <FONT=20 size=3D+1>Regards to all,</FONT><FONT size=3D+1>Jeannie = Devon</FONT><FONT=20 size=3D+1>IMCA #9236</FONT><FONT size=3D+1>The Museum Store/The = Nature=20 Source</FONT><FONT size=3D+1>Anchorage, AK</FONT><FONT size=3D+1><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.thenaturesource.com">www.thenaturesource.com</A></FONT= > <FONT=20 = size=3D+1>______________________________________________</FONT></BLOCKQUO= TE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2019D.B8B41CA0-- Received on Wed 22 May 2002 10:34:03 AM PDT |
 StumbleUpon del.icio.us reddit Yahoo MyWeb
|