[meteorite-list] The Moroccan CR2 meteorite
From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:55:55 2004 Message-ID: <008901c1a8d9$dd62e4e0$3934b1d0_at_computer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C1A8A7.7F031DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is great stuff, Dean you have been drinking. Bring it on, you talk = here like you have lots of dirty information? Show is. NWA 482 for $900 = gram! Lets see it, I am buying! Illegal meteorites, show me the proof, = or are you just talking out of your other end. Show me, how do you know = what papers I have or do not have eh? You pretend to know everything, = run in with the police? That is news to me. It would have been fin but = never happend. Enemies in Morocco? I dont htink so, Ive been there 13 = times and never been hassled yet. The moon rock? It is paid for, the = seller got many thousands in Commisions from both I and Jim. What he did = with it is not my concern. You know Amouri, he drank for months, not my = problem. You say in your email that I never broke any laws, then why do = you say I illegally export meteorites? Get your statements correct, then = post them. Dean, I have NOTHING to hide, so I welcome any and I mean ANY = information you wish to place here.=20 I never attacked Bruno, we had arguments, but we resolved them in person = in Europe. We are not the best of friends but we see that all are = entitled to success or failure in this business. I leave him alone, he = leave me alone. No problems any more. Dean, I do not care what you do, I = just dont like your postings that say crap like "there isnt any more" "I = have it all" ETC ETC ETC. When I was just there and I know otherwise.=20 See ya in Tucson and patiently waiting some more "Dirty" goods on myself = here.=20 Mike Farmer ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dean bessey=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Moroccan CR2 meteorite I guess that we are going to regularly get exposed to the Mike Farmer = Pre Tucson freak show every year now as he attacks other dealers buying = NWA meteorites. I guess that it will be a Tucson ritual from now on. I = would like to refer everybody to last years list archaives where he = started attacking Bruno and accusing him somehow interfering with his = meteorite buying (Although nobody has actually figured out how Bruno was = doing this). Looks like you had a problem at the airport once with your = meteorites and accused Bruno of causing problems for you with customs = (Its in the list archaives - go find them). Bruno was quite happy tp = point out how to get the export permits needed to legally export = meteorites from Morocco. Unlike you, most other people like Bruno are = helpful. He willingly pointed out to you what most sane business people = would have done and did research on the local laws where he was doing = business before he lined up "investors". For everybodys information = Morocco has meteorite export laws. You need an export permit to export = meteorites from morocco. It is a day and a half process at the moroccan = ministry of mines to get one. But you never ever got one did you? Thats = right every one of your customers that you have sold NWA meteorites to = has an illegal meteorite. EVERY SINGLE METEORITE FROM NWA THAT YOU HAVE = SOLD TO YOUR CUSTOMERS WAS ILLEGALLY EXPORTED. They are in the same = catagory as if you found some Tagish Lake in your search in Canada and = illegally carried it out and sold it.You know its true. You dont have = export permits and that you have sold all of your customers illegal = meteorites.=20 Likely you wont have the moroccan government coming after you with the = H5s but with the rare stuff like your lunar you just had better hope = that your customers dont get exposed to some future US government = agreement with the moroccans to return all illegal meteorites (Dont = think that this is not a possibility - the US government is quite = willing to confiscate and return illegally exported artifacts from = certain latin american countries that they have agreements with to do = so). But lets talk about the Lunar a little more. How happy is the person = who you bought it from? You had a little run in with the police last = week in Morocco didnt you? You never broke any law I guess as you didnt = end up in jail but your past dealings in morocco have gotten you some = bad enemies in Morocco. Any some will try to cause legal problems for = you. I dont know if they are justified or not but you seem to have had = some bad business dealings and when you were recently in morocco got = some personal threats from people that you bought meteorites from in the = past didnt you farmer. You can bet that they would cause you more = trouble if they could. Your investors just had better hope that nobody = in morocco tips off the customs people that you illegally export = meteorites and get them all confiscated on you. I doubt that you have = money to pay all of your investors back. Just goes to show how you treat = the people that you deal with over there and how happy they are. Maybe = let the buyers of your Lunar know exactly how the moroccans like your = handling of that. Interestingly you have not attacked Bruno this past = year.I guess that you have finally realized that Bruno is not going to = seriously try to cause problems for you. He is just there to earn money = like the rest of us. There are enough meteorites for us all and most = buyers are happy with that. Apparantly you have more worries about that = from past Moroccan business partners than you do from Bruno. If you want to keep this mud slingly up I can include even more = details about your lunar that I am sure that your investors would be = interested in. You have made some serious enemies in Morocco Farmer. And = they talk. I know what you have been up to. But I wont tell anybody = myself. It would just seem like I am just another bitching meteorite = dealer who dont like competation so this will be (Hopefully) my last = email on this. I dont want to expose list members to more of this crap. = I think that what I will do instead is subscribe Amuri (The guy that you = bought the lunar from) to this meteorite list. This list could include = some nomads anyway. Let him tell the world what he and other moroccans = think of you. I dont know what Amouri would say to us all about you but = Vegas would give odds that it wouldent be positive. Its not a vacant = wasteland over there you know. Any more than Canadas north is not a = wasteland filled with uneducated glue sniffing natives niave to the = outside world. They even have internet over there. Maybe I should also = fully inform Amuri about the moroccan laws as it applies to meteorites = and how that Lunar that you bought from him (Like everything else that = you have from over there) was illegaly exported from Morocco. That even = includes your CR2. Anybody who buys any from you has an illegal = meteorite. I am sure that some people dont care about that. If I offered = some St Robert or Bruderheim that was recently found some people would = be willing to buy it from me. But others wouldent.But since it is such a = rare type of meteorite you should get your $50 asking price for your = illegal CR2 anyway - just as soon as I get all of my legally exported = stuff sold. You are still getting sales for your illegal NWA482 so I = guess that you dont care about minor details like what the law says. = What is the NWA482 going for now anyway? I believe that $900 a gram was = the last offering price that I herd and there was few takers anymore. = That price is likely to go down again to. I certainly wouldent pay $900 = for that stuff. I have to go now. I wont have internet again for 3 days so I dont plan = on sending anymore emails to add to the Farmer Pre Tucson Freak show. = List members dont need this crap anyway.Most people are here to learn = about meteorite - not wither or not farmer is feeling depressed about = his penis size this week. DEAN =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click = Here ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing = list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com = http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C1A8A7.7F031DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is great stuff, Dean you have been = drinking.=20 Bring it on, you talk here like you have lots of dirty information? Show = is. NWA=20 482 for $900 gram! Lets see it, I am buying! Illegal meteorites, show me = the=20 proof, or are you just talking out of your other end. Show me, how do = you know=20 what papers I have or do not have eh? You pretend to know everything, = run in=20 with the police? That is news to me. It would have been fin but never = happend.=20 Enemies in Morocco? I dont htink so, Ive been there 13 times and never = been=20 hassled yet. The moon rock? It is paid for, the seller got many = thousands in=20 Commisions from both I and Jim. What he did with it is not my concern. = You know=20 Amouri, he drank for months, not my problem. You say in your email that = I never=20 broke any laws, then why do you say I illegally export meteorites? Get = your=20 statements correct, then post them. Dean, I have NOTHING to hide, so I = welcome=20 any and I mean ANY information you wish to place here. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I never attacked Bruno, we had = arguments, but we=20 resolved them in person in Europe. We are not the best of friends but we = see=20 that all are entitled to success or failure in this business. I leave = him alone,=20 he leave me alone. No problems any more. Dean, I do not care what you = do, I just=20 dont like your postings that say crap like "there isnt any more" "I have = it all"=20 ETC ETC ETC. When I was just there and I know otherwise. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>See ya in Tucson and patiently waiting = some more=20 "Dirty" goods on myself here. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Ddeanbessey_at_hotmail.com = href=3D"mailto:deanbessey_at_hotmail.com">dean=20 bessey</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 29, 2002 = 6:07=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = The=20 Moroccan CR2 meteorite</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P>I guess that we are going to regularly get exposed to the Mike = Farmer Pre=20 Tucson freak show every year now as he attacks other dealers buying = NWA=20 meteorites. I guess that it will be a Tucson ritual from now on. I = would like=20 to refer everybody to last years list archaives where he started = attacking=20 Bruno and accusing him somehow interfering with his meteorite buying = (Although=20 nobody has actually figured out how Bruno was doing this). Looks like = you had=20 a problem at the airport once with your meteorites and accused Bruno = of=20 causing problems for you with customs (Its in the list archaives = - go=20 find them). Bruno was quite happy tp point out how to get the export = permits=20 needed to legally export meteorites from Morocco. Unlike you, = most other=20 people like Bruno are helpful. He willingly pointed out to = you what=20 most sane business people would have done and did research on the = local laws=20 where he was doing business before he lined up "investors". For = everybodys=20 information Morocco has meteorite export laws. You need an export = permit to=20 export meteorites from morocco. It is a day and a half process at = the=20 moroccan ministry of mines to get one. But you never ever got one did = you?=20 Thats right every one of your customers that you have sold NWA = meteorites to=20 has an illegal meteorite. EVERY SINGLE METEORITE FROM NWA THAT YOU = HAVE SOLD=20 TO YOUR CUSTOMERS WAS ILLEGALLY EXPORTED. They are in the same = catagory as if=20 you found some Tagish Lake in your search in Canada and illegally = carried it=20 out and sold it.You know its true. You dont have export permits and = that you=20 have sold all of your customers illegal meteorites. </P> <P>Likely you wont have the moroccan government coming after you with = the H5s=20 but with the rare stuff like your lunar you just had better hope = that=20 your customers dont get exposed to some future US government agreement = with=20 the moroccans to return all illegal meteorites (Dont think that this = is not a=20 possibility - the US government is quite willing to confiscate and = return=20 illegally exported artifacts from certain latin american countries = that they=20 have agreements with to do so).</P> <P>But lets talk about the Lunar a little more. How happy is the = person who=20 you bought it from? You had a little run in with the police last week = in=20 Morocco didnt you? You never broke any law I guess as you didnt end up = in jail=20 but your past dealings in morocco have gotten you some bad enemies in = Morocco.=20 Any some will try to cause legal problems for you. I dont know if = they=20 are justified or not but you seem to have had some bad business = dealings and=20 when you were recently in morocco got some personal threats from = people that=20 you bought meteorites from in the past didnt you farmer. You can bet = that they=20 would cause you more trouble if they could. Your investors just had = better=20 hope that nobody in morocco tips off the customs people that you = illegally=20 export meteorites and get them all confiscated on you. I doubt that = you have=20 money to pay all of your investors back. Just goes to show how you = treat the=20 people that you deal with over there and how happy they are. Maybe let = the=20 buyers of your Lunar know exactly how the moroccans like your = handling=20 of that. Interestingly you have not attacked Bruno this past year.I = guess that=20 you have finally realized that Bruno is not going to seriously try to = cause=20 problems for you. He is just there to earn money like the rest of us. = There=20 are enough meteorites for us all and most buyers are happy with that.=20 Apparantly you have more worries about that from past Moroccan = business=20 partners than you do from Bruno.</P> <P>If you want to keep this mud slingly up I can include even more = details=20 about your lunar that I am sure that your investors would be = interested in.=20 You have made some serious enemies in Morocco Farmer. And they talk. I = know=20 what you have been up to. But I wont tell anybody myself. It would = just seem=20 like I am just another bitching meteorite dealer who dont like = competation so=20 this will be (Hopefully) my last email on this. I dont want to expose = list=20 members to more of this crap. I think that what I will do instead = is=20 subscribe Amuri (The guy that you bought the lunar from) to this = meteorite=20 list. This list could include some nomads anyway. Let him tell the = world what=20 he and other moroccans think of you. I dont know what Amouri would say = to us=20 all about you but Vegas would give odds that it wouldent be=20 positive. Its not a vacant wasteland over there you know. Any = more than=20 Canadas north is not a wasteland filled with uneducated glue=20 sniffing natives niave to the outside world. They even have = internet over=20 there. Maybe I should also fully inform Amuri about the moroccan laws = as it=20 applies to meteorites and how that Lunar that you bought from him = (Like=20 everything else that you have from over there) was illegaly exported = from=20 Morocco. That even includes your CR2. Anybody who buys any from you = has an=20 illegal meteorite. I am sure that some people dont care about that. If = I=20 offered some St Robert or Bruderheim that was recently found some = people=20 would be willing to buy it from me. But others wouldent.But since it = is such a=20 rare type of meteorite you should get your $50 asking price for your = illegal=20 CR2 anyway - just as soon as I get all of my legally = exported stuff=20 sold. You are still getting sales for your illegal NWA482 so I = guess that=20 you dont care about minor details like what the law says. What is the = NWA482=20 going for now anyway? I believe that $900 a gram was the last offering = price=20 that I herd and there was few takers anymore. That price is likely to = go down=20 again to. I certainly wouldent pay $900 for that stuff.</P> <P>I have to go now. I wont have internet again for 3 days so I dont = plan on=20 sending anymore emails to add to the Farmer Pre Tucson Freak show. = List=20 members dont need this crap anyway.Most people are here to learn about = meteorite - not wither or not farmer is feeling depressed about his = penis size=20 this week.</P> <P>DEAN </P></DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall> <HR> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: <A=20 href=3D"http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag3_etl_EN.asp">Click=20 Here</A><BR>______________________________________________ = Meteorite-list=20 mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C1A8A7.7F031DC0-- Received on Tue 29 Jan 2002 10:29:48 AM PST |
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