[meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......LAST WORD
From: Meteordealer <meteor.dealer_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:55:48 2004 Message-ID: <003001c1a06b$01c64380$bb753d04_at_vz.dsl.genuity.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C1A041.189C4F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <<Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value in 24 = hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping statements made = for shock value?>> No problem. NWA CR2's have lost 95% of their value practically = overnight. One day they were $300g, a few days later they were $15g, = hence the entire reason this discussion was started, Matteo was upset = that the price of his NWA CR2's had crashed. Have you noticed that the = Temple Bar, Arizona CR2 is still going for $300g-$500g despite what is = happening with the Moroccan's? What's the current value on Renazzo = (CR2), $350g-$400g?=20 <<Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it sold per gram when it was = first found. This is just not a true statement. >> Wagon Mound currently lists between $1.50g-$2.50g. That's the same price = i was selling it for 2 years ago. There are 2 pieces of WM on Ebay that = just sold for $2.28g and $11.72g. <<Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought on ebay for = less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for on your = website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one. = http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/>> Brahin could be found online about 4 years ago for $4.50g-$5.00g. If you = go outside of Ebay it is still listed for $4g-$5.00g and selling for = that price i might add. I sold out of Brahin last Summer for $4.00g. I = had a collector email me a couple of weeks ago wanting some Brahin or = Brenham. He said he was willing to pay $5g for a nice slice in the 100g = range. Ebay is not the end all be all determining factor of meteorite = value. You also have to factor in website prices, private sale prices, = and offline mail order prices. Don't be fooled by the artificially low = Ebay prices for Brahin. I would suggest buying as much Brahin as you can = as the price will be shooting back up as soon as Ivan runs out. That is = all i have to say on the subject. If anyone needs clarification as to = why rare types of NWA's are crashing feel free to email me PRIVATELY as = i no longer wish to bore the list members with this endless debate. This = dead horse has been beaten long enough. ;-) Brad Sampson meteor.dealer_at_gte.net ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Randy Mils=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin...... Brad: Based upon your criteria of a "legitimate" meteorite, Lafayette does = not qualify. We do not know for sure when, where or by whom on = Lafayette. Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value in 24 = hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping statements made = for shock value? Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it sold per gram when it was = first found. This is just not a true statement. Actually I remember = when one dealer had a sale in which he GAVE AWAY a sample of Wagon Mound = with every purchase. Does this lower the value to zero. No, not = anymore than a sale on any commodity at a retail store. Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought on ebay for = less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for on your = website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one. = http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/ Randy >From: "Meteordealer"=20 >To:=20 >Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......=20 >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:06:50 -0500=20 >=20 > "Legitimate" meaning it has a unique name and we know where, when, = total=20 >mass, how, and by whom it was found. Also meaning that the = appropriate lab=20 >work and pairing has been done. Have any meteorites other than an NWA = lost=20 >95% of their value in a 24 hour period? Not that i recall. Are most = NON=20 >NWA's with the exception of a few still selling at about the same = price as=20 >they always have? Yes.=20 >=20 >Brad Sampson=20 >meteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 >=20 >----- Original Message -----=20 >From: "Michael Blood"=20 >To: "Meteordealer"=20 >Cc:=20 >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:41 AM=20 >Subject: CR2 prices ruin......=20 >=20 >=20 > > Meteordealer wrote:=20 > > > What instability??? Most legitimate finds and falls ARE holding=20 >steady.=20 > > > I'm a dealer. I compare the market prices of many meteorites on = a daily=20 > > > basis. Just about all of them i look at are the same price = they've=20 >always=20 > > > been or more.......=20 > > > Brad Sampson=20 > > > ______________________________________________________=20 > > Well Brad,=20 > > Let's get this strait: there is no (price) instability, there are=20 > > "legitimate"=20 > > falls and finds - meaning, I suppose, the others (NWA, in = particular)=20 > > are "illagitimate" and prices are "holding steady."=20 > > You have enlightened me to such a degree I have placed your emial = in=20 > > the folder I formerly reserved for posts from Mohamed .... and I = don't=20 > > mean=20 > > Ali.=20 > > Keep on truckin', dude.=20 > > Michael=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >______________________________________________=20 >Meteorite-list mailing list=20 >Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing = list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com = http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C1A041.189C4F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><<<FONT size=3D3>Please educate us on which = NWA meteorite=20 lost 95% of it's value in 24 hours. Was this just another of your = broad,=20 sweeping statements made for shock value?>></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>No problem. NWA CR2's have lost 95% = of their=20 value practically overnight. One day they were $300g, a few days later = they were=20 $15g, hence the entire reason this discussion was started, Matteo was = upset that=20 the price of his NWA CR2's had crashed. Have you noticed that the Temple = Bar,=20 Arizona CR2 is still going for $300g-$500g despite what is happening = with the=20 Moroccan's? What's the current value on Renazzo (CR2), $350g-$400g?=20 </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><<Also, Wagon Mound is not = selling for what=20 it sold per gram when it was first found. This is just not a true=20 statement. >></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Wagon Mound currently lists between=20 $1.50g-$2.50g. That's the same price i was selling it for 2 years ago. = There are=20 2 pieces of WM on Ebay that just sold for $2.28g and=20 $11.72g.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><<Brahin once sold for $10- per = gram. =20 Now it can be bought on ebay for less than $1- sometimes. How much = are you=20 selling it for on your website? You seem to have omitted the price = on this=20 one. <A=20 href=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/">http://www.angelfire.co= m/me2/meteorites/</A>>></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Brahin could be found online about 4 = years ago=20 for $4.50g-$5.00g. If you go outside of Ebay it is still listed for = $4g-$5.00g=20 and selling for that price i might add. I sold out of Brahin last Summer = for=20 $4.00g. I had a collector email me a couple of weeks ago = wanting some=20 Brahin or Brenham. He said he was willing to pay $5g for a = nice slice in=20 the 100g range. Ebay is not the end all be all determining factor of = meteorite=20 value. You also have to factor in website prices, private sale prices, = and=20 offline mail order prices. Don't be fooled by the artificially low Ebay = prices=20 for Brahin. I would suggest buying as much Brahin as you can as the = price will=20 be shooting back up as soon as Ivan runs out. That is all i have to say = on the=20 subject. If anyone needs clarification as to why rare types of NWA's are = crashing feel free to email me PRIVATELY as i no longer wish to bore the = list=20 members with this endless debate. This dead horse has been beaten long = enough.=20 ;-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV>Brad Sampson<BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteor.dealer_at_gte.net">meteor.dealer@gte.net</A><BR></DIV>= <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dacculabs_at_hotmail.com = href=3D"mailto:acculabs_at_hotmail.com">Randy=20 Mils</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 18, 2002 = 7:34=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Re: CR2=20 prices ruin......</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P>Brad:</P> <P>Based upon your criteria of a "legitimate" meteorite, Lafayette = does not=20 qualify. We do not know for sure when, where or by whom on=20 Lafayette.</P> <P>Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value in = 24=20 hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping statements = made for=20 shock value?<BR><BR>Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it sold = per gram=20 when it was first found. This is just not a true = statement. =20 Actually I remember when one dealer had a sale in which he GAVE AWAY a = sample=20 of Wagon Mound with every purchase. Does this lower the value to = zero. No, not anymore than a sale on any commodity at a retail=20 store.</P> <P>Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought on = ebay for=20 less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for on your = website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one. = <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/">http://www.angelfire.co= m/me2/meteorites/</A></P> <P>Randy</P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: "Meteordealer" <METEOR.DEALER_at_GTE.NET> <DIV></DIV>>To: <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......=20 <DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:06:50 -0500=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> "Legitimate" meaning it has a unique name and we know = where,=20 when, total=20 <DIV></DIV>>mass, how, and by whom it was found. Also meaning that = the=20 appropriate lab=20 <DIV></DIV>>work and pairing has been done. Have any meteorites = other than=20 an NWA lost=20 <DIV></DIV>>95% of their value in a 24 hour period? Not that i = recall. Are=20 most NON=20 <DIV></DIV>>NWA's with the exception of a few still selling at = about the=20 same price as=20 <DIV></DIV>>they always have? Yes.=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>Brad Sampson=20 <DIV></DIV>>meteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV></DIV>>From: "Michael Blood" <MLBLOOD_at_COX.NET> <DIV></DIV>>To: "Meteordealer" <METEOR.DEALER_at_GTE.NET> <DIV></DIV>>Cc: <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:41 AM=20 <DIV></DIV>>Subject: CR2 prices ruin......=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Meteordealer wrote:=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > What instability??? Most legitimate finds = and falls=20 ARE holding=20 <DIV></DIV>>steady.=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > I'm a dealer. I compare the market prices of = many=20 meteorites on a daily=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > basis. Just about all of them i look at are = the same=20 price they've=20 <DIV></DIV>>always=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > been or more.......=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > Brad Sampson=20 <DIV></DIV>> > >=20 ______________________________________________________=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Well Brad,=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Let's get this strait: there is no (price) = instability,=20 there are=20 <DIV></DIV>> > "legitimate"=20 <DIV></DIV>> > falls and finds - meaning, I suppose, the others = (NWA, in=20 particular)=20 <DIV></DIV>> > are "illagitimate" and prices are "holding = steady."=20 <DIV></DIV>> > You have enlightened me to such a degree I have = placed=20 your emial in=20 <DIV></DIV>> > the folder I formerly reserved for posts from = Mohamed=20 .... and I don't=20 <DIV></DIV>> > mean=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Ali.=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Keep on truckin', dude.=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Michael=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>______________________________________________=20 <DIV></DIV>>Meteorite-list mailing list=20 <DIV></DIV>>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 <DIV></DIV>>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = <DIV></DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall> <HR> Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. <A=20 href=3D"http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag4_etl_EN.asp">Click=20 Here</A><BR>______________________________________________ = Meteorite-list=20 mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</BLOCKQUOTE></BOD= Y></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C1A041.189C4F20-- Received on Fri 18 Jan 2002 04:56:38 PM PST |
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