[meteorite-list] Ensisheim tkw compilation update
From: harlan trammell <skyrox_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:53:33 2004 Message-ID: <F52AwGvXKvZX31MFLZK0001cfc9_at_hotmail.com> <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P><BR><BR></P> <DIV> <DIV></DIV> <P>thank you for the follow-up on an otherwise very intelligent, outstanding job in repsonse to my question about ens. provenance. it is interesting to note that suprisingly, and unlike in artifacts, that this meteorite is seldom faked. most artifact crooks go straight for the wallet -faking high-end paleos and florida coral pieces most often. a very interesting contrast indeed. i have been accosted by someone faking ga tektites with moldavites. as an owner of ga tektite, i rolled my eyes and walked way- restaining my burning desire to give a local reconstructive orthopedic surgeon some good business from that crook.<BR><BR></P></DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: Zelimir Gabelica <Z.GABELICA_at_UHA.FR> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim tkw compilation update <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 18:43:47 +0100 <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Dear list, <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>I wish first to thank all of you who sent me data and weights of Ensisheim <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>meteorites that are in your private collections. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>As many of you asked to be kept in touch about the progress of my <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>compilation, I am enclosing herewith, as attachment, this updated listing. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Please complete and correct if necessary. I would in particular appreciate <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>knowing the city and country where your collection is stored. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>I am also continuing to look forward to hearing from new repositories as <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>there by no means should be more among the list collectors or dealers. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>I also wanted to send again, in a more readable form than in my first mail, <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>the big comparative Table, listing repositories and (some) private <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>collection weights coming from database recently built by Russell Kempton <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>(NEMS) and sent to ma as per Dec. 1, 2003. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>In this table, I have compared these values: <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>1) to those listed in the BM. Catalogue (M. Grady, Ed. 2000) (column 2 of <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>the table) and also: <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>3) to those reported in our own "Red Book" archiving the History of <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Ensisheim ("ENSISHEIM, Son Histoire à travers les Pierres", edited by the <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Confrérie St Georges des Gardiens de la Météorite d'Ensisheim, Sept. 1993, <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>133 pp, Table p 25 (World Distribution of the Ensisheim Meteorite Fragments, <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>as compiled by J. Schmutzer, Hamburg, Gremany), data that are probably <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>fragmentary and that need updating. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Upon sending this table as attachmant by last Friday to all of you, the list <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>moderator warned me that the so sent message was too long, (over 20 KB) and <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>therefore this table is not included in the present message. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>I'd be happy to send it, as attachment, to anyone interested and asking me <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>specifically to send it. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Anyway, I will be sending this table to Russell who kindly provided me his <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>own data and I'd appreciate to hear his comments about the discrepancies of <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>the tkw's as listed in the 3 culumns of table. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>So far, I tend to consider Russell's data, that stem from recent compilation <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>of various data bases, as the most reliable. However, this list is for sure <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>not definite and probably many errors subsist in each comumn, as perhaps <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>some of the official institutes did not report recent updatings. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>My next task will be then to contact each of the institutes, universities or <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>museums individually. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>A heavy but stimulating task. Any help from any of you is always warmly welcome! <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Thank you very much and have a great day (or night) <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Zelimir <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>---------------- <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Preliminary listing of the Ensisheim meteorite weights from private <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>collections of some list members, as compiled by Zelimir Gabelica (France). <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>(updated December 9, 2002, 18:00 GMT) <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Honolulu, Joseph Murakami coll. 45g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Waldkirch, Renate & Michael Buckler coll. 16.1g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Oleye , Zelimir Gabelica coll. 15.82g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>City?, Rob Wezel coll. 12.82 <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>NEMS sales stock about 9g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>City?, Fred Olsen coll.(15 pieces) 6.850g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>City ?, Peter Scherff (2 pieces 5.25g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Chicago, Steve Arnold coll. 3.7g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>City ?, Mauro Ianeselli 3.2g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>City ?, Eric Olson coll. 2.05g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>City ?, David Hardy coll. 1.8g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Tessera, Matteo Chinellato coll. 1.56g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>City?, Thomas Webb coll. 1.3885g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>City?, Charlie Devine coll. 1.346g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>City?, Steven Drummond coll. 1.342g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Linger, Guy Heinen coll. 0.85g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Helsinki, Frederick Janik coll. 0.3g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>City?, Julien Courtois coll. 0.22g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Evansville (?), Rhett Bourland coll. 0.05g <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>-------------- <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>****************************************************** <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Prof. Zelimir Gabelica <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Groupe Sécurité et Ecologie Chimiques (GSEC) - ENSCMu <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>3, rue A. Werner <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>F-68093 MULHOUSE Cedex, FRANCE <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>FAX: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>e-Mail: Z.Gabelica_at_uha.fr <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>****************************************************** <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>______________________________________________ <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Meteorite-list mailing list <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>The new <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMHEN/2018">MSN 8:</a> smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* </html> Received on Mon 09 Dec 2002 04:25:30 PM PST |
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