[meteorite-list] NWA BIG QUESTION
From: drtanuki <drtanuki_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:52:20 2004 Message-ID: <3D658C02.E8056336_at_tkc.att.ne.jp> Mr. Farmer is absolutely correct! BTW I only bought 2 meteorites from 2 true nomads (they live in tents and travel around mostly on foot or camel). The sellers are not the nomads; they live in houses and have electricity. Dirk....Tokyo Michael Farmer wrote: > Forget that idea, we have tried that for 2 years. They are all FIERCELY > competitive and will not tell the exact location to each other. > the nomads find the meteorites, the middle men in Morocco snap them up from > all over and sell them. > Simple. > > Mike Farmer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <impactearth_at_space.com> > To: <drtanuki_at_tkc.att.ne.jp> > Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:05 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA BIG QUESTION > > > Another quick point. Yes, you are right, there are > > many nomads, but I would say there AREN'T that many > > nomads hunting and picking up meteorites. I would say > > that every NWA being picked up right now is by a full > > time meteorite hunting Nomad who SHOULD know how to use > > a map and a GPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 23 August 2002, drtanuki wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ray, > > > There are 1) many nomads 2) no nomad trusts > > another, > > > 3) batteries(expensive) and technology(dangerous if in > > > the wrong area of the Sahara..ie.border > > > areas) are easy to sell for money, 4) they cannot see > > > any personal gain from it since others will have their > > > location, 5), and 6) they nomads may be the > > > source of the meteorites; but they are basically not > > > the ones selling them to the foreign buyers. I tried > > > to leave my GPS with a "nomad" basically > > seller > > > and he didn't want to bother to learn to use it. > > > Cultures are different and persons different. Go to > > > the Sahara and then you can understand more clearly > > > what I am saying. > > > Your solution is perfectly logical; but maybe > > > impossible. Dirk...Tokyo > > > > > > impactearth_at_space.com wrote: > > > > > > > Perhaps Dean could call up the Nomads on their > > cell > > > > phones, provided they are currently wondering > > the area > > > > of the desert with cell phone reception, and ask > > them > > > > to start documenting the finds. WHY HASN'T THIS > > > > HAPPENED? Maybe ship them a GPS unit and some > > graph > > > > paper to map out the strewn field? I mean, in > > this > > > day > > > > and age of communication, the only reason the > > "nomads" > > > > aren't doing this is for 2 reasons. 1 being > > they are > > > > too lazy, 2 being, no one has asked them to. > > Think of > > > > the what could happen, the next NWA's to be found > > > could > > > > acutally be documented, knowing the TKW, > > location, > > > etc. > > > > Why isn't this happening? Everyone, collectors, > > > > dealers, NOMAD'S, could be making more money. > > > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > On Fri, 23 August 2002, drtanuki wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List Members; > > > > > A meteorite cannot be paired unless > > analysis is > > > > done > > > > > to prove so. A > > > > > practice that is common in the market is to > > classify > > > > > one stone > > > > > (sometimes more) and call the remainder the > > same. > > > The > > > > > fact that they > > > > > are &quot;called&quot; the same > > does not prove that > > > > they are the > > > > > same type of > > > > > meteorite or even paired. Dean's NWAs all > > look > > > > similar > > > > > due to the local > > > > > environment that they were found (probably > > within > > > the > > > > > same region of the > > > > > Sahara). > > > > > Desert varnish or sand erosion covers > > most of > > > the > > > > > meteorites and > > > > > rocks in the Sahara and other deserts. > > Desert > > > varnish > > > > > is characteristic > > > > > in colour or texture depending on the local > > > > > environment; and even the > > > > > terrestrial rocks look similar in > > appearance. > > > > > I hope this answers some of the > > questions that I > > > > > have been asked to > > > > > respond to. Sincerely, Dirk Ross....Tokyo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > > > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > > > > > <a > > > > > > > href="<a > > > href="http://mail.space.com//jump/http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/m > eteorite-list">http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-li > st</a>">http://mail.space.com//jump/http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/lis > tinfo/meteorite-list">http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteo > rite-list</a></a>; > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > > Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at > > > <a > > > href="http://mail.space.com//jump/http://www.space.com">http://www.space.com > </a>. > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > > > > > > > <a > > > href="http://mail.space.com//jump/http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/m > eteorite-list">http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</a> > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > Received on Thu 22 Aug 2002 09:12:36 PM PDT |
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