[meteorite-list] NWA BIG QUESTION
From: impactearth_at_space.com <impactearth_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:52:20 2004 Message-ID: <20020822181506.14207.h017.c000.wm_at_mail.space.com.criticalpath.net> Thanks for the info Mike. Call me crazy, but I figured that being in the Sahara, they could have a huge ass strewn field picked over in a week or so, and not have to worry about keeping it secret. Ray On Thu, 22 August 2002, "Michael Farmer" wrote: > > Forget that idea, we have tried that for 2 years. They > are all FIERCELY > competitive and will not tell the exact location to > each other. > the nomads find the meteorites, the middle men in > Morocco snap them up from > all over and sell them. > Simple. > > Mike Farmer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <impactearth_at_space.com> > To: <drtanuki_at_tkc.att.ne.jp> > Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:05 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA BIG QUESTION > > > > Another quick point. Yes, you are right, there are > > many nomads, but I would say there AREN'T that many > > nomads hunting and picking up meteorites. I would say > > that every NWA being picked up right now is by a full > > time meteorite hunting Nomad who SHOULD know how to > use > > a map and a GPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 23 August 2002, drtanuki wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ray, > > > There are 1) many nomads 2) no nomad trusts > > another, > > > 3) batteries(expensive) and technology(dangerous if > in > > > the wrong area of the Sahara..ie.border > > > areas) are easy to sell for money, 4) they cannot > see > > > any personal gain from it since others will have > their > > > location, 5), and 6) they nomads may be the > > > source of the meteorites; but they are basically not > > > the ones selling them to the foreign buyers. I > tried > > > to leave my GPS with a &quot;nomad&quot; basically > > seller > > > and he didn't want to bother to learn to use it. > > > Cultures are different and persons different. Go to > > > the Sahara and then you can understand more clearly > > > what I am saying. > > > Your solution is perfectly logical; but maybe > > > impossible. Dirk...Tokyo > > > > > > impactearth_at_space.com wrote: > > > > > > &gt; Perhaps Dean could call up the Nomads on their > > cell > > > &gt; phones, provided they are currently wondering > > the area > > > &gt; of the desert with cell phone reception, and > ask > > them > > > &gt; to start documenting the finds. WHY HASN'T THIS > > > &gt; HAPPENED? Maybe ship them a GPS unit and some > > graph > > > &gt; paper to map out the strewn field? I mean, in > > this > > > day > > > &gt; and age of communication, the only reason the > > &quot;nomads&quot; > > > &gt; aren't doing this is for 2 reasons. 1 being > > they are > > > &gt; too lazy, 2 being, no one has asked them to. > > Think of > > > &gt; the what could happen, the next NWA's to be > found > > > could > > > &gt; acutally be documented, knowing the TKW, > > location, > > > etc. > > > &gt; Why isn't this happening? Everyone, > collectors, > > > &gt; dealers, NOMAD'S, could be making more money. > > > &gt; > > > &gt; Ray > > > &gt; > > > &gt; On Fri, 23 August 2002, drtanuki wrote: > > > &gt; > > > &gt; &gt; > > > &gt; &gt; Dear List Members; > > > &gt; &gt; A meteorite cannot be paired unless > > analysis is > > > &gt; done > > > &gt; &gt; to prove so. A > > > &gt; &gt; practice that is common in the market is > to > > classify > > > &gt; &gt; one stone > > > &gt; &gt; (sometimes more) and call the remainder > the > > same. > > > The > > > &gt; &gt; fact that they > > > &gt; &gt; are &amp;quot;called&amp;quot; the same > > does not prove that > > > &gt; they are the > > > &gt; &gt; same type of > > > &gt; &gt; meteorite or even paired. Dean's NWAs all > > look > > > &gt; similar > > > &gt; &gt; due to the local > > > &gt; &gt; environment that they were found (probably > > within > > > the > > > &gt; &gt; same region of the > > > &gt; &gt; Sahara). > > > &gt; &gt; Desert varnish or sand erosion covers > > most of > > > the > > > &gt; &gt; meteorites and > > > &gt; &gt; rocks in the Sahara and other deserts. > > Desert > > > varnish > > > &gt; &gt; is characteristic > > > &gt; &gt; in colour or texture depending on the > local > > > &gt; &gt; environment; and even the > > > &gt; &gt; terrestrial rocks look similar in > > appearance. > > > &gt; &gt; I hope this answers some of the > > questions that I > > > &gt; &gt; have been asked to > > > &gt; &gt; respond to. 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