[meteorite-list] NWA BIG QUESTION

From: impactearth_at_space.com <impactearth_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:52:20 2004
Message-ID: <20020822181506.14207.h017.c000.wm_at_mail.space.com.criticalpath.net>

Thanks for the info Mike. Call me crazy, but I figured
that being in the Sahara, they could have a huge ass
strewn field picked over in a week or so, and not have
to worry about keeping it secret.

Ray

On Thu, 22 August 2002, "Michael Farmer" wrote:

>
> Forget that idea, we have tried that for 2 years. They
> are all FIERCELY
> competitive and will not tell the exact location to
> each other.
> the nomads find the meteorites, the middle men in
> Morocco snap them up from
> all over and sell them.
> Simple.
>
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &lt;impactearth_at_space.com&gt;
> To: &lt;drtanuki_at_tkc.att.ne.jp&gt;
> Cc: &lt;meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com&gt;
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA BIG QUESTION
>
>
> &gt; Another quick point. Yes, you are right, there
are
> &gt; many nomads, but I would say there AREN'T that
many
> &gt; nomads hunting and picking up meteorites. I
would say
> &gt; that every NWA being picked up right now is by a
full
> &gt; time meteorite hunting Nomad who SHOULD know how
to
> use
> &gt; a map and a GPS.
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; On Fri, 23 August 2002, drtanuki wrote:
> &gt;
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Dear Ray,
> &gt; &gt; There are 1) many nomads 2) no nomad
trusts
> &gt; another,
> &gt; &gt; 3) batteries(expensive) and
technology(dangerous if
> in
> &gt; &gt; the wrong area of the Sahara..ie.border
> &gt; &gt; areas) are easy to sell for money, 4) they
cannot
> see
> &gt; &gt; any personal gain from it since others will
have
> their
> &gt; &gt; location, 5), and 6) they nomads may be the
> &gt; &gt; source of the meteorites; but they are
basically not
> &gt; &gt; the ones selling them to the foreign
buyers. I
> tried
> &gt; &gt; to leave my GPS with a
&amp;quot;nomad&amp;quot; basically
> &gt; seller
> &gt; &gt; and he didn't want to bother to learn to
use it.
> &gt; &gt; Cultures are different and persons
different. Go to
> &gt; &gt; the Sahara and then you can understand more
clearly
> &gt; &gt; what I am saying.
> &gt; &gt; Your solution is perfectly logical; but
maybe
> &gt; &gt; impossible. Dirk...Tokyo
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; impactearth_at_space.com wrote:
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Perhaps Dean could call up the
Nomads on their
> &gt; cell
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; phones, provided they are
currently wondering
> &gt; the area
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; of the desert with cell phone
reception, and
> ask
> &gt; them
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; to start documenting the finds.
WHY HASN'T THIS
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; HAPPENED? Maybe ship them a GPS
unit and some
> &gt; graph
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; paper to map out the strewn field?
 I mean, in
> &gt; this
> &gt; &gt; day
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; and age of communication, the only
reason the
> &gt; &amp;quot;nomads&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; aren't doing this is for 2
reasons. 1 being
> &gt; they are
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; too lazy, 2 being, no one has
asked them to.
> &gt; Think of
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; the what could happen, the next
NWA's to be
> found
> &gt; &gt; could
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; acutally be documented, knowing
the TKW,
> &gt; location,
> &gt; &gt; etc.
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Why isn't this happening?
Everyone,
> collectors,
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; dealers, NOMAD'S, could be making
more money.
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Ray
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; On Fri, 23 August 2002, drtanuki
wrote:
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Dear List Members;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; A meteorite cannot be
paired unless
> &gt; analysis is
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; done
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; to prove so. A
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; practice that is common
in the market is
> to
> &gt; classify
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; one stone
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; (sometimes more) and call
the remainder
> the
> &gt; same.
> &gt; &gt; The
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; fact that they
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; are
&amp;amp;quot;called&amp;amp;quot; the same
> &gt; does not prove that
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; they are the
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; same type of
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; meteorite or even paired.
 Dean's NWAs all
> &gt; look
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; similar
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; due to the local
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; environment that they
were found (probably
> &gt; within
> &gt; &gt; the
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; same region of the
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Sahara).
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Desert varnish or
sand erosion covers
> &gt; most of
> &gt; &gt; the
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; meteorites and
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; rocks in the Sahara and
other deserts.
> &gt; Desert
> &gt; &gt; varnish
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; is characteristic
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; in colour or texture
depending on the
> local
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; environment; and even the
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; terrestrial rocks look
similar in
> &gt; appearance.
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I hope this answers
some of the
> &gt; questions that I
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; have been asked to
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; respond to. Sincerely,
Dirk
> Ross....Tokyo
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
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