[meteorite-list] Temporary Names

From: David Freeman <dfreeman_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:44:36 2004
Message-ID: <3AA8EEE7.642378DD_at_fascination.com>

Dear List;
Go Dean Go!

Things tend to go full circle again. If Only Science valued meteorites, they
would not be rusting/decaying in the desert not unlike all of the billions of
dinosaur, mammal bones and other fossils that are eroding out of the ground in
the Western U.S.. Cattle loose more artifacts than archaeologists find.
Grant it, science has no money to purchase market share of meteorites, BUT,
with- out a gainful market value, meteorites would continue to be rusty rocks
left to decay in the deserts.
I do think that the classification and naming program needs help in speeding up
and streamlining to meet the current needs of science, collectors, and finders
(and in reverse order too). Again, to fully complete this, there needs to be
more percerverance of location information in the field, leverage by collectors
to ignore unnamed, unclassified finds (regardless of pricing or future possible
classification), and for science to push for better monitoring of naming and
authentication procedures (expedient classification procedures for all new
meteorites). I may offer, wouldn't this be a wonderful field to send new
science graduates into? Seems there is work to get done there, so, but what?
No money?.....how about a fee for expedient identification? Meteorites with
long. and lat. and true homes get classified FIRST over even lunars that have no
locations??? Commercialize science to make a profit? Seems to work for
NASA....somewhat.
My 2 cents for a new clear day,
Dave Freeman

dean bessey wrote:

> >Of course!
> >My opinion, that i expressed many times is that meteorite are >scientific
> >matter first. <snip> but I think it is particularly unfair >to use
> >NWAXXX.>When one starts to enter the commercial game, I think >that a
> >minimum of ethic is neccessary.
> >Best wishes
> >
> Franco - take your weird form of ethics and crap comments about scientific
> interest and give them to some nomad to bury in the sahara desert where they
> can get a proper burial. If you genuinely beleived your rhetoric that they
> are above all "scientific first" you would gladly offer every new meteorite
> that you find for free to the scientific community before offering them for
> sale and only sell them after the scientific community picked out the ones
> that have no scientific value.
> You are involved in meteorites because you are hoping to make money from
> them. No more, no less. Its money. And not because you want to find the
> answer to some great cosmic mystery of the universe.
> I dont like many of the activities that go on in the sahara desert any more
> than you do. But I do support the reasons behind them and we wouldent have
> as many meteorites found if everything had to be on the up and up 100% like
> what you claim as your "ethics and scientific value" notions would indicate.
> So go back out into the sahara desert and find more meteorites the way that
> you run your meteorite business as per your business decisions. And let
> others involved in their own saharan meteorite business operate the way that
> they have decided to run their own business. At least everybody else is up
> front about how they do things and dont go around calling everybody else
> unethical because their business operation is not exactly the same as your
> business operation.
> Come to think of it, you dont have any ethics in the first place to give to
> some nomad to bury in the sahara desert. They all got thrown out somewhere
> between 50 cents and $12 a gram.
> In support of getting more meteorites into the scientific and collecting
> community
> DEAN
>
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